> if you really want the low budget route ..there is a setup that is sold so
> that you use your own 2 X 4's as bars..( it only works with cars with
> gutters) and you could make your own cradles to bolt on. it's sold for car
> topping canoes. they come as just 4 gutter clamps that have a horizontal
> flange to bolt your 2 X4 on to. Addison

> Addison

Right, this sounds like the "QUICK AND EASY" mounts. I got mine from Gaetono at the Small Boat Shop in Norwalk, CT. I believe they may also be available from Perception. There are also available short sections of stainless steel "gutter" pieces, just long enough to hold the mount, that can be permanently mounted on the roof of any car. Not too ugly at all, and they greatly simplify mounting roof racks! TNX< Scotty