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Re: regrets unnecessary
By:Don Beale
Date: 9/16/1999, 12:22 am
In Response To: regrets unnecessary (Paul G. Jacobson)

> Don't get too bent out of shape because you use one species of wood over
> another. World economic policies already have lightened your wallet in an
> exact proportion to the amount of discord brought about by the felling of
> whatever trees were involved. A lesser species, one which was more
> abundant, would have cost less.

Economics are what drive it. I'll go on record as saying "the bigger the pool, the dirtier the water". What I mean is than when large profit margins are to be had, nobody cares what is left of the environment afterwards, especially when that environment is far from home.

> Some people believe that it is bad for Mankind to do anything in a forest.
> Baloney. Mother Nature's randomness causes more destruction and waste than
> humand ever have. Trees die, fall down, and rot every day in every forest
> in every part of the world. They must, or other parts of the ecosystem
> would fail. Removing a few trees a couple of years before they would fall
> on their own makes little difference to the grand scheme of things.

We live in houses of wood. We sit on furniture of wood. Write on it, wipe our a**es with it. There will always be logging, get used to it. I live at the edge of a huge forest that all burned forty years ago, the Tillamook burn. Now, it is a diverse, managed, second growth forest, and there is a lot of logging going on. I do think that here in Oregon the logging companies are under pretty heavy restrictions to prevent the worst of the damage. I also think, as above, that they would just clear-cut the state if allowed; indeed the proof is in the fields.

> The modern concept of tree farming replaces older trees with more, yonger
> ones. The younger ones are more active in filtering our air, capturing
> sunlight, and through sheer numbers can provide more home for woodland
> critters.

I'd like to see a lot more tree farming, especially for paper production. It is a travesty to wipe with old growth fir...

> When trees are NOT replaced with other trees, but clearings are created,
> the open fields are exposed to additional sunlight, and are more capable
> of producing oxygen than dense forests. While humans create many clearings
> in this fashion, the amount of land that burns each year from natural
> causes, such as lightning strikes, is also great. The fires reduce the
> trees to their essential minerals rapidly, thus allowing them to be easily
> reabsorbed by the soil, and to fertilize it.

> There is a poetic notion that if we did nothing the forests would go on as
> they are now. This is nonsense. When Nature screws up (look at the current
> hurricanes) species go extinct and forests turn to deserts. Regrowth is by
> chance. Man, on the other hand, is actively working to prevent these
> ecological disasters, and is actively aiding in restoration.

There certainly is hope. I try to use recycled wood wherever possible, partly because I think it adds to the beauty. But dont feel bad about using old growth or virgin forest for boats. It beats wiping with it.

> Trees grow slowly, but a forest can regenerate. As long as you treat your
> materials with respect, and not waste them, you should have no regret or
> remorse over using them. People who want to make you feel bad for using
> exotic woods have political agendas that are their own.

Thats for sure, everybody does.

Messages In This Thread

Mahogany regrets
Peter S. -- 9/15/1999, 8:22 pm
Re: what was it for
Bob Trower -- 9/22/1999, 8:41 pm
Re: Mahogany regrets
Peter S. -- 9/20/1999, 8:36 pm
ps. it was a coho
lee -- 9/21/1999, 3:03 pm
Re: Mahogany regrets
lee -- 9/18/1999, 12:13 pm
go plant a tree :)
Brian T. Cunningham -- 9/16/1999, 4:10 pm
Re: I did, and feel better!
Don Beale -- 9/16/1999, 7:14 pm
Re: go plant a tree :)
Will Brockman -- 9/16/1999, 6:15 pm
Re: Mahogany regrets
Jay Babina -- 9/16/1999, 2:47 pm
Re: Used wood
Don Beale -- 9/17/1999, 12:39 pm
Re: wine vats
Tom Kurth -- 9/20/1999, 9:24 pm
Old Telephone Poles
Stan Heeres -- 9/20/1999, 7:51 am
Re: Used wood
Paul Lund -- 9/18/1999, 3:07 am
Re: 1st link post!
Don Beale -- 9/18/1999, 10:34 am
Re: Used wood
Hank -- 9/17/1999, 3:16 pm
Re: Used wood
Shawn Baker -- 9/20/1999, 2:11 pm
Re: Used wood
Grant Goltz -- 9/17/1999, 12:51 pm
Re: Mahogany regrets
Grant Goltz -- 9/16/1999, 10:04 pm
Re: Mahogany regrets
Dan Lindberg -- 9/16/1999, 1:43 pm
Cedar, redwood, spruce, etc. regrets
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 9/16/1999, 10:12 am
Re: Cedar, redwood, spruce, etc. regrets
Bram -- 9/17/1999, 10:24 pm
Re: toilet paper
Dean Trexel -- 9/16/1999, 3:40 pm
Re: toilet paper
Grant Goltz -- 9/16/1999, 10:06 pm
Re:tp boats?
lee -- 9/17/1999, 3:28 pm
Paper boat ....
Brian T. Cunningham -- 9/17/1999, 5:54 pm
Paper Canoe
Mike Hanks -- 9/18/1999, 11:34 pm
Re: yowzah, don't stop me
lee -- 9/18/1999, 12:18 pm
Pragmatism
Mike Scarborough -- 9/16/1999, 10:01 am
Re: Mahogany regrets
Jay Babina -- 9/16/1999, 9:04 am
Re: Mahogany regrets
Will Brockman -- 9/16/1999, 8:56 am
Re: Mahogany regrets
Ian Johnston -- 9/17/1999, 4:05 am
Re: Mahogany regrets
Paul Woolson -- 9/16/1999, 12:24 am
regrets unnecessary
Paul G. Jacobson -- 9/15/1999, 11:41 pm
Re: regrets unnecessary
jay Roberts -- 9/16/1999, 6:55 pm
Re: regrets unnecessary
Ian Johnston -- 9/16/1999, 3:06 am
Re: regrets unnecessary
Don Beale -- 9/16/1999, 12:22 am
Re: absolution
lee -- 9/15/1999, 10:13 pm
Re: absolution
Bob Kelim -- 9/15/1999, 11:30 pm
Re: absolution
Brian T. Cunningham -- 9/17/1999, 5:59 pm
Re: absolution
Brian T. Cunningham -- 9/17/1999, 6:00 pm
Re: Mahogany regrets
Ian Johnston -- 9/15/1999, 9:11 pm
Re: Mahogany regrets
Brian -- 9/15/1999, 10:26 pm