> Where to start?

> Well here it goes. No one (not even you George) can argue that the
> strength tests done by the Gougeon Brothers is not accurate. The test
> results represent the "observations" of the testers during the
> process. These results are as accurate as the manufacturing process use,
> the measuring equipment, the materials used, environmental conditions
> during the lay up and testing phase. There are many variables in the
> process of laying up composite materials. Unless the lay up and test is
> done with very strict control (i.e temp., humidity, materials, etc.) the
> test results WILL vary. If anything the test results should be use in a
> comparison and not an absolute fashion.

> There are only three things that should be considered when building your
> kayak:

> 1. Did I fun building my boat. 2. Am I having fun paddling my new
> creation. 3. Is it strong enough for ME not you George.

> If all of the above questions are true, then what is the problem.

> I am not in the business of building a kayak. I am building my kayak for
> fun.

> The review of Ted's Kayakcraft by George Roberts was absolutely
> irresponsible. To base a review on two pages in the book is wrong.

> George is full of challenges (www.robertscpa.com/kayaks) Well I have one
> for you George. Either put up or shut up. Come up with the data you say is
> correct or write your book.

> Now can we get back to building boats.

> Darrell K. Pearse

Well, here's my two cents.

I am no expert on kayaks - I just finished building my first one this year. However, I do have an engineering degree from the US Naval Academy, have a lot of experience racing sailboats, and have done some flying.

1. George may be hard to deal with, but, he is entirely correct in his engineering assements. If anyone believes that slapping together cedar stips or plywood with epoxy in your garage is the most efficient way to build a kayak then you are mistaken. I'm not so sure I would trust my boat in a true wilderness expedition.

2. However, Darrell is also correct (in my judgement) in that as long as the boat is reasonably safe, used responsibly, and you are enjoying the experience then have fun!

When I built my Arctic Tern I definately overbuilt the boat. I know that it is not the 38 lbs. that Pygmy says is possible, but, at least I think (hope) it is safe for its intended use. I know that my glassing is not up to standard. Basically, I understand that I sacrificed weight for strength. Not a problem -- just a better work out anyway.

Strip building seems to me to be more of an art than an exersice in efficient engineering.

If you build using the popular methods don't think that you have the most advanced boat on the water. If you're an engineer don't think that everbody cares.

p.s. I promise never to comment on this subject again.