> How small do you want it? 16' or smaller and that I can still fit in 5'11" 175
> Have you considered Nick's S&G? kind of, I was thinking an easier S&G. Nick has prompted that his S&G is challenging to put together. I was wondering if their was another proven small design.

> Or possibly a skin kayak? They go together quickly can be whatever
> dimensions you want and are generally very light and inexpensive. If you
> just want a day boat that is a plus because some of the is taken up by the
> ribs and stringers. I also built a putz boat about a year or so ago. It was fun. but it is not really what I need. I quess i could design one but I was thinking more on the lines of a more solid s&g. I paddle mostly on Lake Champlain where the wind can wip up some high fequency waves that I would like to use this new boat to go out in. I need something that is small and turns quickly. The expediton would be my boat for most of my paddling and this boat would be for screwing around on real nasty days.

>I've been considering a lower volume version of the Walrus, either wood or
> skin. what are you doing with a Walrus? just kidding :)
> Give us more specifics and we may be able to help some more.

> Mike Hope this helps?

Tom Preska