Date: 7/2/2000, 7:02 pm
: "I bought the masively unpopular Honda Civic 1993 VX model. It gets a real 42 Miles per gallon in the city with the air on. It has gotten a record 54 mpg with the air off at 65 on the freeway. It does 0-60 in well under 10 secounds ( 9.3 is claimed) and the quater mile goes by in the 17's. The top speed that I have managed is 104 when the rev limiter cuts out regardless of gear. ( It does 104 in third fourth or fifth). It cruises at 40 to 1 fuel to air ratio and it has a oil pressure rotated cam that automatically changes the effective cam profile at 2600 rpm. At that rpm, a second intake cam comes into play opening a second intake valve for power.( At under 2,600 the first intake valve is smaller and opens very little, while the second intake valve has an agressive cam that governs its action) The Mixture changes at wide open throttle and the tires are definitely low rolling resistance type. (165-70-13). The rims weigh an unbelievable 9 lbs as opposed to most mags that weigh in at 15 to 20 plus. The wind resistance is minimized and this baby can transport both my kayaks without complaint, even after 130,000 miles. The ox sensor needs regular cleaning, because it needs to be very sensitive. It handles better then my 1971 MGB but of course it is no match for my race prepared 93 Miata with its roll bar, adjustable racing shocks, stiff sway bars and stiff bushings and of course eraser soft gummy tires ( The civic wasn't meant to compete with the likes of that SCCA Porche killing monster). The technology of my VX Civic is just scratching the surface of what is possible.. Honda has discontinued it for lack of interest. My County issued Chrysler Stratus gets 16 mpg the way I drive it, handles less confidently then my Civic and is slower to 6o or 100 to boot. God knows if that thing could ever reach 100 anyway. American cars and others are getting shamefull gas mileage. If someone needs anything bigger then a Chrysler PT Cruiser, then he must have four children or be planning an expedition to Alaska offroad. Or else, he needs it because he is a worker who hauls huge cargo. There are no trips for groceries that require an 8 cyl 5000 pound monster that gets a real life 10 to 12 mpg. Nothing involving kayaks require a huge suv either unless you are hauling six of them. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Garth
Messages In This Thread
- Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
Dean Trexel -- 6/22/2000, 6:26 pm- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 6/26/2000, 10:38 am- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
Tig and Tink -- 6/26/2000, 11:45 pm
- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
Berkeley C. -- 6/23/2000, 2:26 pm- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
Dean Trexel -- 6/23/2000, 3:11 pm- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
RM Dalton -- 6/25/2000, 12:45 am- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
Berkeley C. -- 6/23/2000, 6:05 pm- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
Dean Trexel -- 6/26/2000, 9:59 am
- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
- Crutches for poor paddlers?
Brian Nystrom -- 6/23/2000, 11:14 am- Re: Crutches for poor paddlers?
bob -- 6/23/2000, 7:44 pm- Re: Crutches for poor paddlers?
Tim Smith -- 6/23/2000, 3:27 pm - Re: Crutches for poor paddlers?
- Sea Kayaker's Greenland Skin on Frame
Lew Crenshaw -- 6/23/2000, 10:43 am- Re: Sea Kayaker's Greenland Skin on Frame
Greg Stamer -- 6/23/2000, 11:31 am- Re: Sea Kayaker's Greenland s&g
Dean Trexel -- 6/23/2000, 11:23 am - Re: Sea Kayaker's Greenland s&g
- design intent
Vernon Lowery -- 6/23/2000, 9:54 am- Is this leading anywhere?
RM Dalton -- 6/23/2000, 10:18 am- Re: Yes (everybody read this)
Shawn B -- 6/23/2000, 2:19 pm
- Re: Yes (everybody read this)
- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
Rob Forsell -- 6/23/2000, 9:31 am- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
Shawn B -- 6/23/2000, 2:16 pm
- I like my rudder for fishing
davew -- 6/23/2000, 9:07 am- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
Edgar Kleindinst -- 6/23/2000, 7:55 am- No Skegs or Rudders, but at what price?
David Dick -- 6/23/2000, 7:26 am- What about my 21' triple?????
Dale Frolander -- 6/23/2000, 3:08 am- Re: That would be a good exception
Shawn B -- 6/23/2000, 2:10 pm
- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
Richard Boyle -- 6/23/2000, 1:00 am- Re: NA vs. AU Rudders
Shawn Baker -- 6/23/2000, 1:54 am- Re: NA vs. AU Rudders
Ian Johnston -- 6/23/2000, 2:50 am- Re: NA vs. AU Rudders
Tim Smith -- 6/23/2000, 1:59 pm- Re: NA vs. AU Rudders
Ian Johnston -- 6/24/2000, 1:56 am
- Re: NA vs. AU Rudders
- Re: NA vs. AU Rudders
- Re: NA vs. AU Rudders
- Re: SO DEAN?
Ian Johnston -- 6/22/2000, 8:17 pm- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
Tony -- 6/22/2000, 7:44 pm- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
RM Dalton -- 6/22/2000, 11:59 pm
- Re: blasphemy
Ross Leidy -- 6/22/2000, 6:49 pm- Re: rudder=blasphemy to inuit designs *Pic*
Dean Trexel -- 6/22/2000, 7:47 pm- Re: rudder=blasphemy to inuit designs
Tig and Tink -- 6/24/2000, 1:48 am- Re: Greenland vs. superior designs???
Mike Hanks -- 6/23/2000, 2:06 am- Re: That's a bit of luddism
Ross Leidy -- 6/22/2000, 10:25 pm- Re: That's a bit of luddism
Dean Trexel -- 6/22/2000, 11:22 pm- Model T
Don Bowen -- 6/23/2000, 10:53 am- Re: yep
Ross Leidy -- 6/23/2000, 9:19 am- Re: Advancements.
Ian Johnston -- 6/23/2000, 3:09 am- Re: Advancements.
Tony -- 6/23/2000, 1:57 pm- Patent infringement?
David Dick -- 6/24/2000, 7:51 am- Re: Conspiracy Theories,
Ian Johnston -- 6/24/2000, 2:26 am- Re: Conspiracy Theories,
Tony -- 6/26/2000, 3:13 pm- Way OT, 200 MPG
Don Bowen -- 6/25/2000, 12:05 pm- Re: 200 MPG=Alien Abduction
Ian Johnston -- 6/26/2000, 4:11 am- Three valve per cyl and 40 to 1 fuel to air!
garth -- 7/2/2000, 7:02 pm- Re: You cant say that!
Don Beale -- 6/26/2000, 5:12 pm- Re: You cant say that!
Julie Kanarr -- 6/26/2000, 9:39 pm- Re: You cant say that!
Ian Johnston -- 6/27/2000, 10:35 am
- Re: You cant say that!
- Re: 200 MPG=Alien Abduction
Rehd -- 6/26/2000, 8:57 am- Re: 200 MPG=Alien Abduction
Ian Johnston -- 6/26/2000, 10:45 am- Re: 200 MPG=Alien Abduction
Rehd -- 6/26/2000, 9:50 pm
- Re: 200 MPG=Alien Abduction
- Re: You cant say that!
- Three valve per cyl and 40 to 1 fuel to air!
- Re: Conspiracy Theories, ( O.T. )
Rehd -- 6/24/2000, 1:09 pm- Re: Conspiracy Theories, ( O.T. )
Ian Johnston -- 6/25/2000, 2:45 am
- Way OT, 200 MPG
- Re: Conspiracy Theories,
- Patent infringement?
- Re: That's a bit of luddism
Rehd -- 6/22/2000, 11:44 pm - Re: yep
- Model T
- Re: rudder=blasphemy to inuit designs
Don Price -- 6/22/2000, 8:15 pm- Re: that explains it
lee -- 6/22/2000, 8:10 pm- Re: that explains it
Dean Trexel -- 6/22/2000, 8:47 pm- Re: that explains it
Ross Leidy -- 6/23/2000, 9:28 am- Re: that explains it
Dean Trexel -- 6/23/2000, 9:52 am
- Re: that explains it
lee -- 6/22/2000, 10:44 pm - Re: that explains it
- Small Rudder?
mike allen ---> -- 6/22/2000, 8:23 pm- Re: Small Rudder?
lee -- 6/22/2000, 10:30 pm
- Re: that explains it
- Re: Greenland vs. superior designs???
- Re: blasphemy
bob -- 6/22/2000, 7:33 pm- Re: blasphemy
Greg -- 6/22/2000, 8:15 pm- Re: blasphemy
Dean Trexel -- 6/22/2000, 9:02 pm- Re: blasphemy
Greg -- 6/23/2000, 12:18 am
- Re: blasphemy
- Re: blasphemy
- Re: rudder=blasphemy to inuit designs
- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant
- Re: Skegs & Rudders: a very short rant