Be carefull with assumptions with any rack.

For both the Thule and Yakama, if you have the "Tee" style that attaches to the factory Tee slot, there is only a small cross section of PLASTIC holding each brand to the roof. Also, as the other post related, there is not much holding the Tee to the roof.

Always use bow/stern ropes on these types of racks.

Dan

ut others are bombproof. You really have to evaluate each individual installation when making the decision to use bow or stern lines or not. I certainly wouldn't trust most factory rack systems, since most are mainly designed for securing luggage.

: To pull the rack (a Thule) off my car would require major bending of the door
: and window frames, which are some of the strongest sections of the roof.
: With the boats seated inverted in the saddles, at 70 mph on windy days,
: they don't even move. Consequently, I don't feel the need for bow or stern
: lines, though I occasionally use two straps on the front saddles.