I'm just a s&g kind of guy, but it's been two years! since I built my North Bay, the back porch is getting the 2x4 and double layer 6mil plastic walls, gearing up for some boats for Amphibious Horizons and myself, modified N.B. CH18,CH14, and Merganser,,woo woo the neighbors are going to love the sound of sanders and shop vac at 9pm. apologies to all you stripmasters, my needs are simple.