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Re: Walrus Floatation :) Same as below??
By:Jack Gilman
Date: 11/3/2000, 10:48 am
In Response To: Re: Walrus Floatation :) Same as below?? (John Monfoe)

Hi-

I had thought about doing something similar on my Greenland skin-on-frame. I posted the question to the Baidarka list, and the responses seemed to indicate that the foam is not waterproof, and would soak up water and become a soggy mess.
If the foam is encapsulated, this could be avoided. But then the casule would be your flotation and who needs the extra weight of the foam?
I ended up putting left-over pieces of minicell into the stems, and went with float bags. The Mariner Kayaks guys sell some real nice large bags out of a very tough material. Recommended!

Good luck-
Jack

: Hi Rehd,

: I am building a self designed Kayak similar to the Little Auk as my first and
: I probably won't have any hatched compartments for bouyancy, so I am going
: to keep your idea in mind. I orininally mentioned that I was thinking of
: pouring expanding foam into the bow and stern as floatation, but was
: warned that this might put too much pressure on the boat's structure and
: cause damage. I had worried about this also, because when I was in pattern
: making I once used expandable foam as an experiment to back up a pattern.
: I boxed the back with 1" plywood with 2" holes in it for the
: foam to flow through and not deform the square back, but it did anyway.
: This foam expandsion was probably 10 or 20 to 1. However, I think I recall
: mixing a batch in a gallon paper mixing container to see it's reaction and
: it only foamed up out of the container without deforming it in any way. If
: I remember this correctly, and I would run this test again before trying
: this on a kayak, then I have in mind, standing the kayak on its nose
: veritcally and making my pour through a garden hose with a funnel attached
: to the pouring end.

: John

Messages In This Thread

Walrus Floatation :) Same as below??
Rehd -- 11/2/2000, 10:30 pm
Re: the Ney's have it.
Rehd -- 11/3/2000, 7:02 pm
easier and cheaper flotation.
Paul G. Jacobson -- 11/7/2000, 10:18 pm
Re: the Ney's have it.
John Monfoe -- 11/4/2000, 3:18 am
Re: Don't do it Rehd!
Paul C -- 11/3/2000, 6:16 pm
Re: Walrus Floatation: home made dry bag?
Bill Price -- 11/3/2000, 5:47 pm
Re: Walrus Floatation :) Same as below??
Roger Nuffer -- 11/3/2000, 3:23 pm
Just buy float bags
Brian Nystrom -- 11/3/2000, 11:13 am
Re: Walrus Floatation :) Same as below??
Mike Hanks -- 11/3/2000, 11:01 am
Re: Walrus Floatation :) Same as below??
John Monfoe -- 11/3/2000, 4:29 am
Re: Walrus Floatation :) Same as below??
Jack Gilman -- 11/3/2000, 10:48 am