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Re: By George...
By:Rob Macks
Date: 1/22/2001, 11:27 am
In Response To: By George... (Ken Finger)

: I recall seeing a whitewater kayak on George Robert's website, don't recall
: if it was strip or plywood.

: There aren't a lot of plans for short kayaks around for strip construction. I
: was looking for a 12-14 foot recreational kayak plan last year - there's
: really nothing out there. I ended up "borrowing" the lines from
: a plastic boat (12.5' Walden Vision) to build the hull, making some
: changes because cedar strips do not flex as easily as plastic can be
: molded. I designed the deck myself, using measurements from other boats I
: used to determine deck heights for knee, foot, and back areas to allow
: proper clearance, and yet be easy to roll. Basically ended up with a
: touring hull and a whitewater deck. A friend has a Perception Pirouette,
: and it looks like the hull would be easy to duplicate in strips. The deck
: needs to be modified somewhat to get the stips to conform.

: Some warnings: I think the reason there aren't many designs for short stip
: boats available is that they are difficult to build. Because of there
: length, they must also be wider to carry the same amount of weight - a 12'
: boat with a 21" beam would need a periscope to carry an average size
: person. This means more curvature of strips over a shorter distance. If
: you try to build one, have some wood screws handy - staples will not
: suffice. My boat ended up with about 2 dozen screw holes in it. You might
: be OK with an older whitewater style boat (11-12' length), but the more
: radical designs (7-9' length) is probably inadvisable.

: Also, whitewater conjures up images of rocks. Not the best areas for wooden
: boats. Yes, strip boats are strong - given the right fiberglass layup. But
: constant confrontation with rocks? The boat may survive, but the varnish
: will need frequent work if you want to keep it looking good.

A short boat isn't had to build. One of the reason's I started strip building was because I wanted to build a whitewater boat for myself. Most whitewater prototypes are strip built. you can make a WW stripper but need to use a more complex lay-up and S-glass etc. Get Charlie Walbrdge's "Boatbuilder's Manuel"

I never built my own WW stripper. I'have plans for a WW kayak but the problem is who wants to put out plans and get sued by the builder's relatives when they find the body?

Good Luck!

Rob

Messages In This Thread

Whitewater Kayak plans
Mark -- 1/19/2001, 1:53 pm
By George...
Ken Finger -- 1/22/2001, 8:08 am
Re: By George...
Rob Macks -- 1/22/2001, 11:27 am
Re: Implying ...
Ross Leidy -- 1/22/2001, 11:36 am
Re: Implying ...
Rob Macks -- 1/22/2001, 2:20 pm