Bob -- If you're willing to build from plans, take a look at the Merganser by Shearwater Boats. Comes in 16, 17, 18 and 17W. -- Greg

: Me, I like canoes. Jayne, she wants a kayak. Before I build anothe canoe I'd
: probably better build a Kayak for Jayne, the boat will be used mostly on
: Willapa Bay, and mostly along shore. My concerns are mostly weather
: cocking, and ease of handling by a relitivly inexperienced paddler. Any
: thoughts or opinions on these two designs? Ease of construction between
: the two is a non-isue with me. Thanks,
: Bob