: Geez Brett, I'm sorry to be the offending party - -

: IMHO, the Sierra Club is not worthy of beetle dung . . .

: Here in Sarasota County, they held that 100 human deaths a year at a bad
: intersection was not worth the destruction of a nest of a few spotted
: somethings, and effectively thwarted the building of an overpass that
: would have saved a 100 human deaths a year just to save a couple of birds
: . . .

: It is classic anthropomorphism, the transferrance of human qualities to
: non-human entities. We're talking far left, about 2 full steps left of
: Jane Fonda. The Sierra Club sucks big-time, keep a wide berth if you value
: humankind . . .

: Best Regards, Spidey

Hi Spidey,
This isn't aimed at you or anyone, I just feel frustrated. I respectfully feel that most on this board are conservationist in that we like to be around nature and try to keep the water and air as clean as possible and a reasonable balance with progress. In the long run nature is going to loose because our population expansion will continue to grow practically unchecked. At the beginning of WW2 our population was 130 million, now in a short 60 years it is just short of 300 million. Will it be 700 million in another 60 years? So a Spotted Owl or a Snail Darter isn't about a Spotted Owl or a Snail Darter but really about us 60 years from now. Where do we draw the line? The Sierra Club is like the little Dutch boy with his finger in the dike but I don't think it will work. Here in Indiana we have River Watch to try to help save our waters. When I was a boy, families would fish the small rivers (30 ft. wide) and take home nice catches of fish for supper. Now, you might catch a tire in knee deep water. Ten years ago I walked every stream in my county to see what was happening to the water. Almost all farm septic systems run to the streams because the ground won't leach away the water because of the clay. There are solutions but they are very expensive. It wa easy to see where the black granular septic came out in pipes from drainage ditches. And the farm land that is drained also comes dirrectly into the streams with pesticides, firtilizer & herbicides. Also, the fields cleared of trees and drained of water causes the streams to be only inches deep instead of many feet deep as they use to be. I would ask the question, if not the Seirra Club, then who?

Take care,
John