: There's no doubt that we have to learn to live more environmentally friendly.
: We consume more per capita in the US by far. Perhaps if they let the price
: of energy reflect it's true value we'd learn to conserve more.

: Tree huggers are kinda a sore spot out here. Was that nitwit Tre Arrow on the
: news last summer? He parked himself on a ledge of a building here and made
: a total fool of himself, and the rest of the tree-huggers. I wish there
: was a better way to get a point across, but like someone else posted, most
: people tune it out unless it's in thier face. Environmentalism is a tough
: issue, for sure.
: They are talking rolling blackouts or kill the salmon this summer in Oregon.
: They think kill the fish, but I'd rather have the blackouts myself.

Haven't heard of this Tre Arrow fellow, though it is good to know we in Australia don't have a monopoly on this brand of foolishness. Unfortunatly, it seems whenever I see someone on tv making a stand on environmental issues, they are usually only making an ass of themselves, and embarrasing the rest of the treehuggers. I guess education rather than sensationalism in journalism would go a long way towards helping what really is an important issue.

Pity about the Salmon, if people have to make a choice of either having fish in the river or microwaved dinner and the WWF on tv, I think the fish will lose.

On the other hand, if I had to give up building kayaks in order to save the environment, it would be a hard choice. (almost managed to get back on topic there)

Paul.