I learned a long time ago from becoming involved in political and civic issues that it is unfortunatly best to just keep your mouth shut ! Honest people can disagree but that is not the issue. Often when some specific issue was discussed there was a lot of hot air and misinformation, but when objective facts were presented to prove some previoulsly stated postion to be totally incorrect .... That didn't stop the poeple who were for (or against) to change their position or even acknowledge the facts. And before you knew what was happening the facts were ingnored and the misinformation was even restated to 'support' their postion. It was clear that people are predisposed to supporting a postion and they don't let some facts get in their way of that and it is just a mess and a waste of time. And these were 'concrete' issues like budget dollars or accounting/allocation issues that were capaple of objective proof. So in this discussion which degenerated into basically 'What is Art?' it is clear it just would end up a 'pissin' contest and those aren't worth much even if one could do all the pissin' ..... And no one, even the president gets to do that. For myself I absolutly see your point, but based on my experience I only wonder why you bothered (you only got grief for your trouble).
Good Paddlin' Rob (noticed that one of your detractors couldn't even get your name right and called you 'Bob', it just shows how much some people are on the ball)
Arthur
Messages In This Thread
- Where is....
Joel -- 4/30/2001, 10:21 pm- Wow, this is way out of control
Dale Frolander -- 5/3/2001, 9:58 pm- Re: Hey, this is the Builder's Forum
Geo. Cushing -- 5/4/2001, 5:29 pm- Uh, I didn't start this thread here. *NM*
Dale Frolander -- 5/4/2001, 9:41 pm
- Uh, I didn't start this thread here. *NM*
- Re: all this.....
daren neufeld -- 5/3/2001, 9:00 pm- Re: all this.....
Liz Leedham -- 5/4/2001, 8:44 am
- Re: most likely... *Pic*
Ross Leidy -- 4/30/2001, 10:47 pm- Re: most likely...
Jeff Fine -- 5/1/2001, 3:24 pm- The Emperor's new canoe
Rob Macks -- 5/2/2001, 9:34 am- Re: Intolerance?
Spidey -- 5/3/2001, 10:03 pm- Call me Mr. Asshole
Rob Macks -- 5/4/2001, 12:13 pm- Re: Call me anything but call me
Lee Gardner -- 5/4/2001, 3:04 pm
- Re: Call me anything but call me
- Re: The Emperor's (beautiful) new canoe
edgar -- 5/3/2001, 10:52 am- Form vs. function, Or more uses for canoes
Paul G. Jacobson -- 5/2/2001, 4:09 pm- Re: Form vs. function, Or more uses for canoes
Lee Gardner -- 5/2/2001, 4:34 pm- my two cents...from the cheap seats
brett (the hitman hart)onnink -- 5/2/2001, 9:38 pm
- my two cents...from the cheap seats
- Re: The Emperor's new canoe
Jeff Fine -- 5/2/2001, 3:43 pm- Re: The Emperor's new canoe
Rob Macks -- 5/2/2001, 4:37 pm- Re: The Emperor's new canoe, my response
Charley Dean -- 5/2/2001, 9:01 pm- Re: The Emperor's new canoe, my response
Rob Macks -- 5/3/2001, 8:26 am- Re: The Emperor's new canoe, my response
Charley Dean -- 5/3/2001, 10:51 am- Re: The Emperor's new canoe, my response
Charley Dean -- 5/3/2001, 10:50 am- Re: How much is Too Much?
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/3/2001, 9:10 am- Re: How much is Too Much?
Rob Macks -- 5/3/2001, 10:34 am- Re: How much is Too Much?
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/3/2001, 7:09 pm- Re: How much is Too Much?
Jason Koldewijn -- 5/3/2001, 11:03 am- Re: How much is Too Much?
Rob Macks -- 5/3/2001, 11:20 am- Re: How much is Too Much?
Jason Koldewijn -- 5/3/2001, 11:30 am
- Re: How much is Too Much?
- Re: How much is Too Much?
- Re: How much is Too Much?
- Re: The Emperor's new canoe, my response
- Re: The Emperor's new canoe, my response
Jim Pace -- 5/2/2001, 10:00 pm- Re: The Emperor's new canoe, my response
Charley Dean -- 5/3/2001, 5:44 am
- Re: The Emperor's new canoe, my response
- Re: The Emperor's new canoe, my response
- Re: The Emperor's new canoe, my response
- Re: The Emperor's new canoe
Jim -- 5/2/2001, 2:22 pm- Re: Bookshelves?
Geo. Cushing -- 5/2/2001, 1:03 pm- Re: OT#489
Lee Gardner -- 5/2/2001, 12:49 pm- Hey Rob, lighten up a bit, OK?
Brian Nystrom -- 5/2/2001, 12:45 pm- Re: Hey Brian OT
Lee Gardner -- 5/3/2001, 10:16 am- Sure, why not?
Brian Nystrom -- 5/3/2001, 12:04 pm
- Re: Hey Rob, lighten up a bit, OK?
Rob Macks -- 5/2/2001, 3:02 pm- Re: I found it.......
Lee Gardner -- 5/3/2001, 4:59 pm- Since I'm much closer to being...
Brian Nystrom -- 5/3/2001, 11:54 am- What's wrong with gas guzzling SUV's *NM*
Dale Frolander -- 5/3/2001, 5:06 am- Re:I miss my Trooper (OT,no kidding)
Lee Gardner -- 5/3/2001, 10:02 am
- is it provocative?
mike allen ---> -- 5/2/2001, 7:42 pm- put "won't" before the expletive *NM*
mike allen ---> -- 5/2/2001, 7:47 pm- intended provocation
mike allen ---> -- 5/3/2001, 2:22 pm- Re: I'll bite
Lee Gardner -- 5/3/2001, 4:00 pm- Re: I'll bite
mike allen ---> -- 5/3/2001, 5:11 pm- Re: I'll bite
Lee Gardner -- 5/3/2001, 5:39 pm- Re: I'll bite
mike allen ---> -- 5/3/2001, 5:55 pm- Re: I'll bite
Lee Gardner -- 5/4/2001, 12:04 am
- Re: I'll bite
- Re: Very nicely put Mike *NM*
Ben Staley -- 5/3/2001, 5:25 pm - Re: I'll bite
- Re: I'll bite
- Re: I'll bite
- Re: I'll bite
- intended provocation
- Re: What is art?
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/2/2001, 6:12 pm- EVERYONE is qualified.
Paul -- 5/8/2001, 11:02 pm- Re: What is art?
Jim Pace -- 5/2/2001, 7:14 pm- Re: What is art?
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/3/2001, 10:01 am- Re: What is art?
Jim Pace -- 5/3/2001, 4:08 pm- Re: What is art?
Rob Macks -- 5/3/2001, 11:03 am- Re: What is art?
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/4/2001, 11:34 am- Re: What it is.
Lee Gardner -- 5/3/2001, 3:48 pm - Re: What it is.
- Re:eternal verities
Lee Gardner -- 5/3/2001, 10:11 am - Re: What is art?
- Re: What is art?
- Re: worthwhile?
Lee Gardner -- 5/2/2001, 6:43 pm- Re: worthwhile?
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/3/2001, 10:16 am- Re: worthwhile?
Lee Gardner -- 5/3/2001, 10:33 am
- Re: worthwhile?
- Re: What is marketing?
Shawn Baker -- 5/2/2001, 6:30 pm - Re: What is art?
- Re: Hey Rob, lighten up a bit, OK?
Jason Koldewijn -- 5/2/2001, 4:12 pm- Re: Hey Rob, lighten up a bit, OK?
Lee Gardner -- 5/2/2001, 3:58 pm- Re:relax: Craftmanship does = seamanship
Tony -- 5/2/2001, 3:17 pm- Re:relax: Craftmanship doesn't = seamanship
Tony -- 5/3/2001, 1:02 pm
- Since I'm much closer to being...
- Sure, why not?
- Re: The Emperor's new canoe, right on!
Tony -- 5/2/2001, 12:27 pm - Call me Mr. Asshole
- Re: Intolerance?
- Re: most likely...
peter czerpak -- 5/1/2001, 3:18 pm- Wow.
Jim Eisenmenger -- 5/1/2001, 7:29 am- Re: Wow.
Rob Macks -- 5/1/2001, 8:16 am- Re: Wow.
Arthur -- 5/4/2001, 8:55 pm- Re: Wow.
david -- 5/1/2001, 10:41 am- Re: Wow.
Rob Forsell -- 5/1/2001, 3:27 pm- According to the builder...
Brian Nystrom -- 5/1/2001, 12:32 pm- A fair price
Ed K. -- 5/1/2001, 2:24 pm
- According to the builder...
- Re: Wow.
- Re: Wow.
- The Emperor's new canoe
- Re: Hey, this is the Builder's Forum
- Wow, this is way out of control