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Hips + 2 fists?
By:Richard Boyle
Date: 5/20/2001, 12:17 pm
In Response To: More thoughts on "anthros" (long) (Greg Stamer)

: If you do choose to use some of the traditional measurements with modern
: materials, ensure that you understand how the measurements are taken. For
: example, if you apply the "hips plus a fist on each side"
: (defines beam with enough room to move but not get displaced) to a strip
: boat, your kayak would be narrower than a corresponding skin boat. Why? On
: a skin boat this measurement is applied to the inside of the gunwales and
: since the gunwales are ½" to ¾" thick, this could make a
: non-trivial difference.
Hi Greg,
I have been reading Robert Morris's new book and was left uncertain on the "hips + 2 fists" measurement. Page 69 says it is to the outside and instructs you to subtract the thickness of the gunwales, page 70 shows a picture with a caption stating it is the inside. Chris Cunningham's article on building a Greenland kayak clearly shows it to outside of the gunwales.
Also,I'm just curious, do you prefer paddling commercial or skin on frame kayaks?

Messages In This Thread

ANTHROPOMETRIC MEASUREMENTS
Dave M -- 5/11/2001, 11:11 pm
Re: ANTHROPOMETRIC MEASUREMENTS
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/14/2001, 10:30 am
Re: a boat to fit you
Dave M -- 5/14/2001, 3:55 pm
Re: a boat to fit you
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/15/2001, 10:00 am
Re: a boat to fit you
Greg Stamer -- 5/15/2001, 11:48 am
Re: a boat to fit you
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/15/2001, 7:03 pm
Re: a boat to fit you
Greg Stamer -- 5/16/2001, 4:10 am
Re: a boat to fit you
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/16/2001, 1:39 pm
Re: a boat to fit you
Dave M -- 5/15/2001, 8:36 pm
Re: a boat to fit you
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/16/2001, 1:54 pm
Re: a boat to fit you
risto -- 5/15/2001, 9:31 am
ANTHROPOMETRIC MEASUREMENTS-NO!
Mike Scarborough -- 5/13/2001, 10:12 am
Re: Modern tools for measurements
Dave M -- 5/15/2001, 1:42 pm
one hog + half a hog = "anthro" hogwash
Paul G. Jacobson -- 5/16/2001, 4:04 am
one bad formula + another = "techno" hogwash
Greg Stamer -- 5/16/2001, 12:20 pm
Just start building.
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/17/2001, 10:20 am
True :)
Paul G. Jacobson -- 5/17/2001, 3:48 am
Re: True :)
Mike Scarborough -- 5/19/2001, 11:00 am
More thoughts on "anthros" (long)
Greg Stamer -- 5/20/2001, 10:43 am
Hips + 2 fists?
Richard Boyle -- 5/20/2001, 12:17 pm
Re: Hips + 2 fists?
Greg Stamer -- 5/20/2001, 11:02 pm
Re: First Edition
Roger Nuffer -- 5/20/2001, 1:51 pm
Re: True :)
LeeG -- 5/17/2001, 7:56 am
Re: ANTHROPOMETRIC MEASUREMENTS-NO!
Greg Stamer -- 5/14/2001, 10:55 am
Re: ANTHROPOMETRIC MEASUREMENTS-NO!
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/15/2001, 10:15 am
Re: ANTHROPOMETRIC MEASUREMENTS-NO!
risto -- 5/14/2001, 9:25 am
Re: ANTHROPOMETRIC MEASUREMENTS *Pic*
Roger Nuffer -- 5/12/2001, 10:23 am
Re: ANTHROPOMETRIC MEASUREMENTS
Dave M -- 5/12/2001, 5:35 pm
Re: OK, I admit it!
Roger Nuffer -- 5/12/2001, 7:17 pm