: Thanks for all the advice, In responce to Lee, I defenitly want a rand with fixed bungie. The problem is in the tunnel placement and my backband is about 3ish inches off the coaming. Whetstone has been very nice though a bit flakey. I would love to have them make me a custom skirt as I do like the quality of there skirt but I think at this point I should just get my money back from them and leave them alone. I had asked a while back and they siad that they would make me one; happily they forgot my request as I later realized it was not a problem of tunnel size but tunnel placement. I have a lot of there other gear and am very happy with it all.

Todd, just out of curiosity how far from the coaming is your backband? Check
: out snapdragon but I've found that adsustable skirts with nylon sleeves
: for the bungie still don't seal very well.