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Re: Greenland S&G vs modified Walrus
By:Don Beale
Date: 8/22/2001, 6:24 pm
In Response To: Re: Chrihs Cunningham's Greenland S&G? (Mike Hanks)

That's an interesting comparison. It sounds like you think that my modified Walrus will be right in there - with a little added rocker, it should track and respond similarly but have a little higher secondary stability due to it's beam. And, it'll have foot room.

And I was gonna cut it up and start over... Thanks Mike:)

BTW, the correction sheet comes with the back issue if you order it.

I thought that Chris's boat was very manuverable, playful even. I didnt realize it had a skeg when I paddled it, so I assume the skeg was up. I didnt think it needed one, but I didnt get out in the wind and waves either, we were getting ready for the group paddle and I thought Chris wanted it. I didnt paddle the King, by the time I was in I was pretty tired. I'll try it next year, and by then I'll be ready to start another boat anyway.

: Johhn,

: Yes, the well used red kayak with Chrihs Cunningham's skin kayaks was the S&G
: Greenland that he designed and published plans for in the fall '94 issue
: of Sea Kayaker Magazine. I have heard there are errors, so ask for the
: correction sheet.

: The kayak was great. It had less initial stability than the Walrus, so edging
: was easier. Secondary on both is great. The Greenland S&G turns easier and
: sharper than the Walrus, but not by too much. The Walrus tracks better
: even with the skeg deployed on the Greenland S&G. The Greenland S&G is
: faster and felt more easily driven than the Walrus. The Walrus is 17' x
: 22", while the Greenland S&G is 18' x 21". The Greenland S&G
: felt more lively on the water, I believe this is because it has more
: rocker, more deadrise, more flare, and is 1" skinnier.

: Lengthening the Walrus by 1' would make them similar in speed, but the
: turning radius would go down. The Greenland S&G was also a tighter fit
: than the Walrus, but modifications to the deck and cockpit could help
: accommodate someone your size.

: R2K1 changed my future kayak plans. I was planning on a strip-built Walrus
: based kayak and a 19'3" x 18" Baidarka, but the Greenland S&G
: and the King were just too sweet. While paddling these two kayaks, I felt
: like a much better paddler than I am. They both did exactly what I
: directed them to do, and they did it predictibly.

: Mihke

Messages In This Thread

R2K1
Brian Wegener -- 8/20/2001, 1:15 am
Re: R2K1
Roy Morford -- 8/20/2001, 3:04 pm
New Attendance Record Set! *Pic*
Pete Roszyk -- 8/20/2001, 2:50 pm
Another Nice Weekend at the Beach *NM* *Pic*
Pete Roszyk -- 8/20/2001, 2:52 pm
Re: Another Nice Weekend at the Beach
LeeG -- 8/20/2001, 11:43 pm
Re: Another Nice Weekend at the Beach
Roger Nuffer -- 8/21/2001, 1:55 am
Re: Shucks!! Musta Been Me :)
Rehd -- 8/24/2001, 12:46 am
There I am
Dale Frolander -- 8/20/2001, 10:28 pm
Re:20 ft. Boat
Ron Larson -- 8/20/2001, 11:20 pm
Coast Guard version of the wet exit *Pic*
Pete Roszyk -- 8/20/2001, 3:14 pm
Thank you Joe and everyone else
Shawn Baker -- 8/20/2001, 11:13 am
Re: Thank you Joe and everyone else
Bill Price -- 8/21/2001, 1:33 pm
Re: The 'Wet Roll'
Don Beale -- 8/22/2001, 12:10 am
Re: The 'Wet Roll'
Shawn Baker -- 8/22/2001, 10:28 am
Re: The 'Wet Roll'
Ben Staley -- 8/22/2001, 11:12 am
Re: The 'Wet Roll'
Don Beale -- 8/22/2001, 4:48 pm
Dittos
Pete Rudie -- 8/20/2001, 1:41 pm
And another thing... *Pic*
Pete Rudie -- 8/20/2001, 5:41 pm
For those of you with kids, bring 'em along
Pete Rudie -- 8/20/2001, 5:48 pm
Re: Bats!
Don Beale -- 8/22/2001, 7:40 pm
Re: Bats!
Holy Toledo Batman -- 8/22/2001, 8:53 pm
Re: Jeff had a great time!
Don Beale -- 8/20/2001, 11:00 pm
Re: Dittos *NM*
gisela -- 8/20/2001, 2:11 pm
Re: Dittos
gisela -- 8/20/2001, 3:01 pm
Re: Thank you Joe and everyone else
Mike Hanks -- 8/20/2001, 12:45 pm
Greenland S&G?
John D. -- 8/22/2001, 12:32 am
Re: Chrihs Cunningham's Greenland S&G?
Mike Hanks -- 8/22/2001, 11:34 am
Re: Greenland S&G vs modified Walrus
Don Beale -- 8/22/2001, 6:24 pm
Re: I was afraid to paddle it!
Don Beale -- 8/20/2001, 10:55 pm
Re: More thanks
Shawn Baker -- 8/20/2001, 11:43 am
Re: More thanks
Ben Staley -- 8/20/2001, 11:58 am
Crabs
Bill Price -- 8/21/2001, 1:39 pm
Re: Crabs :)
Ben Staley -- 8/21/2001, 2:26 pm