: hello all,
: I have a missing link in the process of constructing a sof.
: I understand how to make a sof the way George Putz describes in his
: book (the walrus), but he is doing it without any bent ribs.
: he just uses stringers & few ribs that are made of wood or plywood
: & are cut to the form, but he doesn't bend anything.
: but the boat seen on this thread is made of many bent ribs that forms
: the "width of the boat", & few long ribs.
: how is it possible to bend the ribs to am accurate & symmetric form ?
: any link describing the process ?
: Is it done with steam bending ? so how is it bent to an accurate form ?
: doesn't the wood wants to bend back a little ? (towards its original form)
: any help appreciated,
: Erez
The ribs are steam bent. First they are soaked for a minimum of one week. Then they are steamed for 8 to 15 or more minutes (depending on the thickness and type of wood.) some wood is soaked and then boiled (Alaskan Yellow Cedar.) After the wood is steamed or boiled you pull it out and quickly bend it into the shape you desire. You have to work quickly because you only have a few brief seconds to work the wood. Once the wood cools it mostly keeps its new shape.
The bending process can be done over forms or freehand. Forms will give you the exact shape but you’ve got to build all those forms. If the keel stringer is in place, you can use this to butt the steam bent ribs up against. Jim and I learned the process by trial and error.
I find Jim’s Greenland to be sturdier than my Walrus. Just think of all those holes drilled all the way through the Walrus’s western red cedar. Every one of the holes has a brass screw stuck in it. I lost count while building my Walrus just how many screws are in it, but I think it’s over 200. That’s a lot of weak points.
For reading, I recommend:
Building SKIN-ON-FRAME By Robert Morris
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0881791911/qid=1002175100/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2_2/103-0326674-8383060
The Aleutian Kayak: Origins, Construction, and Use of the Traditional Seagoing Baidarka By Wolfgang Brinck.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0070078939/qid
On the Walrus you’ll end up torturing the stringers into submission. Sure wish I new how to bend wood when I built my Walrus. The pic below is my Walrus. Almost evey place where 2 pieces of wood cross paths there's a hole. Kinda scary!
Roger
Messages In This Thread
- Morris Greenland Progress *Pic*
Roger Nuffer -- 10/3/2001, 12:16 pm- Re: Question: how are the ribs bent ?
erez -- 10/3/2001, 6:15 pm- Re: Question: how are the ribs bent ?
erez -- 10/5/2001, 6:29 pm- Re: Question: how are the ribs bent ?
Rehd -- 10/5/2001, 9:56 pm
- Re: Question: how are the ribs bent ? *Pic*
Roger Nuffer -- 10/4/2001, 2:04 am- Re: Question: how are the ribs bent ?
daren neufeld -- 10/5/2001, 8:56 pm- Re: Cooking Metaphor
Roger Nuffer -- 10/5/2001, 9:27 pm- Moisture content
Pete Rudie -- 10/8/2001, 12:30 pm- Re: Cooking/three bears Metaphor
daren neufeld -- 10/5/2001, 9:47 pm - Re: Cooking/three bears Metaphor
- Moisture content
- Re:How did you boil Alaskan Yel. Cedar?
John B. -- 10/4/2001, 6:28 pm- Re:How did you boil Alaskan Yel. Cedar?
Roger Nuffer -- 10/5/2001, 2:42 am- Get your mind in the gutter?
Bill Price -- 10/5/2001, 7:01 pm- maybe use the downspout pipe *NM*
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/8/2001, 5:16 pm- 2inch pipe capped one end maybe:
mike allen ---> -- 10/5/2001, 7:27 pm- Re: 2inch pipe capped one end maybe:
Bill Price -- 10/7/2001, 12:57 am- 350watt 'dip in coffee cup' electric coil
mike allen ---> -- 10/9/2001, 12:00 pm- proviso
mike allen ---> -- 10/9/2001, 2:09 pm
- proviso
- Thanks..I'm going to try 2" gal. elec. conduit...
John B. -- 10/5/2001, 8:56 pm- Re: Thanks..I'm going to try 2" gal. elec. conduit
Roger Nuffer -- 10/5/2001, 9:11 pm
- 350watt 'dip in coffee cup' electric coil
- 2inch pipe capped one end maybe:
- maybe use the downspout pipe *NM*
- Get your mind in the gutter?
- Re: Cooking Metaphor
- Re: Question: how are the ribs bent ?
Jim -- 10/3/2001, 7:51 pm - Re: Question: how are the ribs bent ?
- Re: Morris Greenland Progress
Brian Nystrom -- 10/3/2001, 12:45 pm- skinning trick
Jay Babina -- 10/3/2001, 2:41 pm- Another skinning trick
Brian Nystrom -- 10/8/2001, 1:12 pm- Re: 'nother skinning trick ??
Rehd -- 10/4/2001, 11:39 pm- Re: Will that work if the frame is oiled? *NM*
Roger Nuffer -- 10/5/2001, 2:34 am- Re: Hmmm?? Could be
Rehd -- 10/5/2001, 9:55 am- Re: Hmmm?? Could be
Bill Price -- 10/5/2001, 6:53 pm
- Re: Hmmm?? Could be
- Re: Hmmm?? Could be
- Re: skinning trick
Brian Nystrom -- 10/4/2001, 12:55 pm- Artificial sinew
Jay Babina -- 10/5/2001, 9:46 am- Re: Artificial sinew
Brian Nystrom -- 10/8/2001, 1:01 pm
- Re: Artificial sinew
- Re: 'nother skinning trick ??
- Re: Morris Greenland Progress *Pic*
Roger Nuffer -- 10/3/2001, 2:26 pm- Re: Morris Greenland Progress
Brian Nystrom -- 10/4/2001, 12:46 pm- Re: Morris Greenland Progress
Roger Nuffer -- 10/5/2001, 2:31 am- Re: Morris Greenland Progress
Brian Nystrom -- 10/8/2001, 12:56 pm
- Re: Morris Greenland Progress
- Re: Morris Greenland Progress
- Re: Morris Greenland Progress
Greg Stamer -- 10/3/2001, 1:43 pm- Re: Morris Greenland Progress
Roger Nuffer -- 10/3/2001, 1:52 pm
- Re: Morris Greenland Progress
Mike Hanks -- 10/3/2001, 1:04 pm- Re: Morris Greenland Progress
Brian Nystrom -- 10/3/2001, 1:27 pm
- Another skinning trick
- Re: Morris Greenland Progress
Rehd -- 10/3/2001, 12:31 pm- Re: Morris Greenland Progress
Roger Nuffer -- 10/3/2001, 1:49 pm
- Re: Question: how are the ribs bent ?
- Re: Question: how are the ribs bent ?