I had thought about more flare to increase seconday stability. I think it might be better to do that, but I'm kinda tired of talking instead of building, so I'm going to build it cheaply as an experiment.

I can always learn to eskimo roll, and use it for whitewater river running (I know it's too long). I think for diddy bopping around in the harbor it might be ideal, which is where I'll be starting (actually have in rentals) anyway.

The upside downedness occurred to me to (when I imported the forms drawing I flipped it once), but I knda like the mixed blending of curved and hard chined.

I can always do the sugesstions you gave on the next iteration (probably strip built). I'm not ignoring you. When I get quirks in performance I will relate back to what I've been told, and say "He told me so" for you!

I liked the whitewater boats I paddled at the kayak expo. I will only be on the water for an hour or two of close to shore in tight spaces at a time for quite awhile (until my kids get bigger). The only drawback is that it's too long, but I like the looks that gives it.

I'll keep y'all posted...

> Opinions and comments eh? Ok, it still looks like a whitewater
> kayak to me. As in the needle ends and pretty extensive rocker. I
> think you will find you need a skeg or rudder to handle it out on
> large bodies of water. That or get comfortable with wasting a lot
> of paddle strokes trying to correct the errors from the previous stroke.
> I also suspect you will find yourself torpedoing into waves with that
> bow instead of rising up over them. I think it's going to be a very
> wet boat.

> I don't understand your choice of lines from the end views. You've
> got a really curved deck (which I doubt ply would make, btw), and
> slab sides. It makes the boat look like it's almost upside down to
> me. I think if you flare the sides out a bit, as opposed to the verticle
> sides you have now, you would find the additional reserve stability
> and resulting lines quite pleasing.

> Since you've mentioned eschewing any stability or hydraulic studies
> of this design, might I suggest you at least get the freeware version
> of Carene? It will give you a bit of info off the drawing itself.
>