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Re: S&G: Cirrus hybrid
By:LeeG
Date: 11/28/2004, 4:18 pm
In Response To: S&G: Cirrus hybrid (Bris)

: I intend to build a Cirrus hybrid. I already have the s&g plans. This year I
: built a CLC Ch17 and the construction was fairly simple. The plans for the
: Cirrus call for a strongback to be built. I am wondering if this is
: necessary. My Ch17 is very accurate and tracks like a train using saw
: stools and winding sticks. Any opinions on the need for a storgback?

internal forms on a strong back are to give a shape to the hull that could not occur without them. Tracking characteristics have very little to do with the manner of construction. If you look at the entry/exit lines of your Ch17 the panels come together into a very fine edge like a tapered prism with near vertical sides. That is dictated to a large extent by the restricted bend possible with sheerclamp. While very fine ends may sound like a nice thing it does have some problems as there isn't much developing volume above that fine entry which makes for ends that stick in waves. It's not that much of a problem in the stern but in the bow it can affect handling a lot. Using some kind of forms or simply building with 4mm WITHOUT pre-glued sheerclamps can enable the hull shape to develop in such a way that the bow can "cork up" when approaching waves, which is a characteristic the Chesapeakes lack. Some of that is the relatively low rocker but most of it is that there isn't much deadrise/flare up near the bow.
The Chesapeake construction technique is derived from the Yare/Severn where the hull was developed from two pieces of ply forced together. In the later 4,8 panel hulls there's a stiff side panel being brought together into one curve. You can make a hull that way but that doesn't mean you can get an optimal shape for paddling that way.

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S&G: Cirrus hybrid
Bris -- 11/25/2004, 3:46 am
Re: S&G: Cirrus hybrid
Barry Shelton -- 11/28/2004, 5:16 pm
Re: S&G: Cirrus hybrid
Bris -- 11/28/2004, 6:53 pm
Re: S&G: Cirrus hybrid
LeeG -- 11/29/2004, 11:06 am
Re: S&G:hybrid-deck to hull?
Bris -- 11/29/2004, 6:36 pm
Re: S&G:hybrid-deck to hull?
Andy Waddington -- 12/1/2004, 11:25 am
Re: S&G:hybrid-deck to hull?
Dave Murray -- 11/30/2004, 8:46 am
Re: S&G:hybrid-deck to hull?
LeeG -- 11/29/2004, 9:38 pm
Re: S&G:hybrid-deck to hull?
Rory -- 12/1/2004, 5:20 am
Re: S&G: Cirrus hybrid
LeeG -- 11/28/2004, 4:18 pm
Re: S&G: Cirrus hybrid
Brownie -- 11/26/2004, 9:45 am
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Jim Kozel -- 11/25/2004, 10:52 am
Re: S&G: Cirrus hybrid
Mark Rhynold -- 11/25/2004, 10:11 am
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Andy Waddington -- 11/25/2004, 4:53 am