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Re: S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built
By:Charlie
Date: 10/3/2007, 5:39 pm
In Response To: S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built (john faas)

I paddle a 16' S&G kayak that has a hull weight of 30 lb. The reason it's so light is the small amount of epoxy involved. The hull is 3mm Bruyzeel and it's not glassed. It can't take being shanked off boulders or being dragged on the bottom but it is not going to fall apart. It was puctured in numerous places when it came off my roofrack at speed but could have been paddled it some rags were jammed in the holes.
If you want minimum weight strip building is not the answer. Too much epoxy required. But, it is very sturdy because the hull is, essentially, a fiberglass hull with a wood core.

: This past weekend I had two wonderful Kayak experiences, I met a man who has
: built "about 60 kayaks" who offered to teach me how to build
: mine and I did a sorta roll for the first time--with a paddle float but it
: was my first class in rolling. It looks like I am profoundly infected with
: I wanta build em disease.
: Builder (age 73 who took a 200 mile trip down part of the Lewis and Clark
: route last summer) said S & G don't hold up well--failing at the
: joints between panels, compared to strip built.
: I suspect he is a long trip carry a lot of supplies sorta guy, while I will
: be lucky to get a couple of hours of paddeling in a local harbor on a few
: weekends.

: So any comments on durability of S & G
: thanks for the comments

Messages In This Thread

S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built
john faas -- 10/3/2007, 1:58 pm
makes no sense
LeeG -- 10/9/2007, 8:20 am
Re: makes no sense
HenkA -- 10/9/2007, 10:47 pm
Yes, I'd trust a boat with NO inside glass
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/11/2007, 1:01 pm
Re: Yes, I'd trust a boat with NO inside glass
Bryan Hansel -- 10/11/2007, 7:18 pm
Re: Yes, I'd trust a boat with NO inside glass
Bill Hamm -- 10/11/2007, 8:00 pm
Re: Yes, I'd trust a boat with NO inside glass *LINK* *Pic*
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 10/12/2007, 8:02 am
Re: Yes, I'd trust a boat with NO inside glass
Bill Hamm -- 10/12/2007, 8:17 am
I'd like a side of ribs with a glass of resin
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/12/2007, 11:05 am
Re: I'd like a side of ribs with a glass of resin
Bill Hamm -- 10/12/2007, 3:52 pm
Re: I'd like a side of ribs with a glass of resin
Mike Savage -- 10/12/2007, 2:04 pm
Re: I'd like a side of ribs with a glass of resin
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 10/12/2007, 11:25 am
Re: I'd like a side of ribs with a glass of resin
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/12/2007, 11:57 am
Re: I'd like a side of ribs with a glass of resin
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 10/12/2007, 12:18 pm
Re: Yes, I'd trust a boat with NO inside glass
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 10/12/2007, 10:36 am
fix up your Pal
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/12/2007, 11:47 am
Re: fix up your Pal
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 10/12/2007, 12:16 pm
Re: fix up your Pal
Bill Hamm -- 10/12/2007, 3:46 pm
Re: fix up your Pal
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 10/14/2007, 8:19 am
Re: fix up your Pal
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/12/2007, 1:04 pm
Re: Yes, I'd trust a boat with NO inside glass
TOM RAYMOND -- 10/11/2007, 6:00 pm
Re: Yes, I'd trust a boat with NO inside glass
Bill Hamm -- 10/11/2007, 5:02 pm
Re: Yes, I'd trust a boat with NO inside glass
John Monroe -- 10/13/2007, 6:38 am
Re: Yes, I'd trust a boat with NO inside glass
Bill Hamm -- 10/13/2007, 7:17 am
Re: Yes, I'd trust a boat with NO inside glass
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/11/2007, 6:48 pm
Re: Yes, I'd trust a boat with NO inside glass
Bill Hamm -- 10/11/2007, 7:58 pm
Re: makes no sense
Bryan Hansel -- 10/10/2007, 12:32 pm
Re: makes no sense
Robert N Pruden -- 10/10/2007, 8:12 pm
Re: makes no sense
TOM RAYMOND -- 10/11/2007, 11:41 am
Re: makes no sense
Bill Hamm -- 10/11/2007, 2:51 am
re. ten pounds less
LeeG -- 10/10/2007, 12:55 pm
Re: makes no sense
Bill Hamm -- 10/10/2007, 1:38 am
Re: makes no sense
HenkA -- 10/10/2007, 10:39 pm
Re: makes no sense
Bill Hamm -- 10/11/2007, 2:48 am
Re: makes no sense
HenkA -- 10/11/2007, 3:46 pm
Re: makes no sense
Bill Hamm -- 10/11/2007, 2:49 am
Re: S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built
HenkA -- 10/4/2007, 8:25 pm
Re: S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built
HenkA -- 10/4/2007, 10:44 pm
Re: S&G: (Link to thread: Which gives stronger boa *LINK*
HenkA -- 10/4/2007, 10:34 pm
Re: S&G: (Link to thread: try again *LINK*
HenkA -- 10/4/2007, 10:55 pm
Two links to tests of strip & S&G
Glen Smith -- 10/4/2007, 8:54 pm
Re: Two links to tests of strip & S&G
Robert N Pruden -- 10/4/2007, 9:58 pm
Re: S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built
Bill Hamm -- 10/4/2007, 1:30 am
Re: S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built
vk1nf -- 10/3/2007, 9:44 pm
Re: S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built
Aaron -- 10/3/2007, 8:41 pm
Re: S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built
Scott Baxter -- 10/3/2007, 7:49 pm
Disagree!
Robert N Pruden -- 10/3/2007, 6:43 pm
Re: S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built
Charlie -- 10/3/2007, 5:39 pm
Re: S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/3/2007, 2:44 pm
Re: S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built
Robert N Pruden -- 10/3/2007, 6:49 pm
durability not the issue. Think "ability" instead
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/4/2007, 9:12 am
Re: durability not the issue. Think "ability" inst
Robert N Pruden -- 10/4/2007, 6:30 pm
Only one job? You'll go mad!!! *NM*
TOM RAYMOND -- 10/4/2007, 6:47 pm
Robert is gonna start writing his books
Robert N Pruden -- 10/4/2007, 7:06 pm
Re: Robert is gonna start writing his books
Ken Sutheland -- 10/6/2007, 6:24 pm
Re: S&G: S & G less durable than strip-built
Bryan Hansel -- 10/3/2007, 2:17 pm