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Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
By:Bill Hamm
Date: 10/11/2007, 4:55 pm
In Response To: Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast (mike allen)

: just like a sailboat righting - stand/kneel on one sponson (it'll sink easy -
: only looks to provide abt 25# floatation or less) and pull the yak over
: towards you.

: the primary primary primary thing to keep in mind - that is especially
: disturbing in this case - is that every second of water immersion counted.
: They were minutes away in either direction from 4 deaths to 4 saved (one
: in variance)

: with the use of sponsons therefore, you do not need to right the craft, just
: crawl on board the upturned hull and your survival time increases an order
: of magnitude. I recall reading that heat loss is 30x more when you are
: immersed. With the wind howling, but paddling jacket and lying down
: providing some evaporative protection to groin and chest, maybe it is only
: 5x - but it logically is way more than total 95% immersion in the deadly
: heatsink.

: the tragic sponson analogy in this case was that they DID raft up to a
: similar condition. If they had stayed rafted, there is a high likelihood
: all would have survived (one was exposed on the raft as if on an
: overturned or lets say even a righted, swamped, sponsoned yak) as help was
: to be on the way from the 3 reaching the nearby island.

Ok, it's obvious that I've not been sailing enough lately . Used to roll a Hobie all the time, shoulda thought about that myself.

Bill H.

Messages In This Thread

Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
Robert N Pruden -- 10/9/2007, 6:29 pm
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
Acors -- 10/10/2007, 12:13 pm
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
HenkA -- 10/11/2007, 3:16 pm
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
Bill Hamm -- 10/11/2007, 2:33 am
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
mike allen -- 10/11/2007, 3:01 pm
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
Bill Hamm -- 10/11/2007, 4:55 pm
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
John Monroe -- 10/13/2007, 2:12 pm
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
Bill Hamm -- 10/13/2007, 3:23 pm
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
John Monroe -- 10/14/2007, 3:56 am
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
Bill Hamm -- 10/15/2007, 1:36 am
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
Bill Hamm -- 10/15/2007, 1:40 am
Re: Other: Magic bullets
Kris Buttermore -- 10/11/2007, 1:11 pm
Re: Other: Magic bullets
Acors -- 10/11/2007, 2:44 pm
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
Acors -- 10/11/2007, 10:15 am
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
Joel Fleischer -- 10/11/2007, 2:46 am
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
Joel Fleischer -- 10/11/2007, 12:10 am
Side flotation
Mike Savage -- 10/10/2007, 1:48 pm
Side flotation idea is old news here
Robert N Pruden -- 10/10/2007, 8:03 pm
Re: Side flotation idea is old news here
Bill Hamm -- 10/11/2007, 4:50 pm
Re: Side flotation idea is old news here
Acors -- 10/11/2007, 9:54 am
Re: Side flotation idea is old news here *Pic*
John Monroe -- 10/11/2007, 5:59 am
Archives *LINK*
Glen Smith -- 10/10/2007, 8:22 pm
Gulp!
Robert N Pruden -- 10/10/2007, 8:50 pm
Re: Side flotation
Acors -- 10/10/2007, 5:43 pm
Re: Side flotation
Mike Savage -- 10/10/2007, 6:12 pm
Re: Side flotation
Acors -- 10/11/2007, 9:39 am
Inflation mechanism *Pic*
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/11/2007, 11:41 am
Re: Inflation mechanism
Acors -- 10/11/2007, 1:59 pm
Re: Inflation mechanism
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/11/2007, 3:08 pm
Re: Inflation mechanism *NM*
Acors -- 10/11/2007, 3:17 pm
Inflatable "life raft." *Pic*
Paul G. Jacobson -- 10/11/2007, 6:14 am
Re: Inflatable "life raft."
Mike Savage -- 10/11/2007, 6:36 am
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
John Straatsma -- 10/10/2007, 8:56 am
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
Robert N Pruden -- 10/10/2007, 7:29 pm
Re: Other: Two kayakers die off West Coast
Bill Hamm -- 10/11/2007, 2:30 am