: All of what you suggest has been tried many times over many centuries. All
: manner of shapes and sizes, mostly resulting in bad paddles that were not
: replicated. A skinny bladed euro is not a GP, and a wide bladed GP is not
: a GP (think about total volume and weight!). Neither will be able to
: perform as well as a traditional GP (there's so much more than meets the
: eye with the deceptively simple GP).

: Main reason not to mix and match is it tends to result in poor compromises
: (on things already very well balanced out before you start mucking with
: it). It's like combining a sofa and a bed to get a hide-a-bed, which in
: use gives you both a heavy uncomfortable sofa AND a heavy uncomfortable
: bed!

: I'm not saying not to experiment - as I've done some of what you suggest.
: Every paddle I've made has been an experiment to some degree. Even the
: ones that are "traditional" in size and shape were customized
: for my use. I have one thats basically a GP inspired symmetrical
: unfeathered surf paddle. Quite short with very wide blades. GP like cross
: sections, unshouldered. It's heavy, but works OK - though no where near as
: well as a regular GP from just about anything. It is sort of nice to roll
: with - and if lighter might make a nice no-brainer roll training paddle
: that would work for both sea and WW paddlers. My latest is a sort of
: GP/Aleut/Wing hybrid with spooned out blades that actually does work -
: very well in fact - but I doubt many others would like it or that it would
: catch on. A wing paddler would have no interest, a GP user might be
: curious but likely won't want to give up GP versatility/variety for the
: speed gain. So no market, but it's still a great paddle with some benefits
: from all (and I have and use all types). My current favorite to paddle
: with (but a GP always comes along too).

: Experiments are fun, and can be productive, but I would never approach this
: stuff with any illusions of actually bettering the GP (or Aleut) beyond
: dialing in my sizing/minor shape preferences. These x paddles that go
: beyond that do what I wanted them to, but something is always traded away,
: thus they are in no way as good in a general sense as a decent GP. If I
: could only have one paddle - no doubt what I'd pick. Fortunately, I am not
: limited and can keep all 14: 6 GP (4 wrc, 2 CF), 1 Aleut, 2 hybrids, 2
: euros (one CF one wood - have had another 6 or so before these), 1 single
: blade, an EPIC wing, and a nice cedar 2x4 yet to be carved...

: So, I'm not defending GP from any traditional/dogmatic perspective. While I
: do have a preference for the GP, it's purely a functional orientation and
: not a romantic one. Greenland (and Aleut) paddles are not merely curious
: museum pieces. Nor are they limited in form/function through some deficit
: or oversight in their development. They are the result of centuries of
: refinement and testing - in real world use, as survival tools not
: recreational toys. Damn hard to beat that, or even find another paddle
: type that has a comparable pedigree.

: Problems/limits attributed to them are largely cases of misunderstandings,
: misuse/under use, bad sizing, and poor carving (all GPs are FAR from
: created equal - and those new to them are least likely to know what to
: carve, how to adjust, what feel right/wrong, etc.).

: A well carved and well sized GP will pretty much teach you how to use it (and
: over time how to get the most out of it) if you let it. If it's carved
: poorly that won't likely happen. If it's sized poorly, it almost certainly
: wont happen. If you try to force euro habits on it - it will just plain
: suck (same can be said for wing).

: They're not for everyone, or every use. They are certainly better suited to
: narrower craft - and on open water vs. shallow rivers - but otherwise the
: stuff about lower stroke angles, higher cadences, more slip, and less
: power is misleading. Anecdotal accounts of poor results reflect true
: individual experiences, but are not representative of the performance that
: regular/long time users experience - and we don't all poke along or spend
: out water time just rolling 100' from shore.

: Don't get sucked in by the 2x4/primitive mentality. Given the user and
: intended uses, I think the Greenland paddle is an exceptionally high level
: piece of design/technology. I'm hard pressed to find many other items,
: from any culture, that achieves a similar level of refinement. All the GPs
: we see in use are thoroughly contemporary/modern designs.

: "Traditionalists" are suggesting people carve to certain guidelines
: because those guidelines are well tested and shown to WORK. There are some
: limits to following them exactly (particularly for very large and very
: small paddlers), but that is why these are general guidelines and not
: rules or fixed plans. Smart carvers/shoppers look at several sizing
: methods and talk to other carvers/users to gain insight on what particular
: adjustments to the average plans might be good for them - just as was
: traditionally done - yielding different paddles for different
: users/uses...

The problem with calling the traditional diamond shaped paddle "the" traditional GP is that it's not the only one that's traditional. I'm hoping this link will work, it's from Harvey Golden's site if not, showing a really wide range of traditional GP's.

http://www.traditionalkayaks.com/Kayakreplicas/KayakReplicas.html

Bill H.