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Re: V-hull or not------WebKitFormBoundarygF0AAApM+
By:Mike Savage
Date: 1/8/2008, 6:46 pm
In Response To: Re: V-hull or not------WebKitFormBoundarygF0AAApM+ (Toni V)

: I think "Secondary stability rules!". Initial stability can be low
: in my opinion because it gives better speed and it gives better feeling
: for the movement. High initial stability can lead to false safety feeling
: and when the kayak heels it can capsize too easily.

: I guess this just means that people can have very different opinions about
: kayaks and how they should behave.

Hi Tony,
I'd agree with Secondary Stability Rules as long as there IS some initial stability. My greenlander has some Vee all along the keel and my baidarka has a heck of a lot and they both feel quite stable sitting still. As long as the water is not completely flat.
On dead flat water, both feel squirrely or twitchy, just small movements to stay comfortably upright. They're fine as soon as I'm moving, there's some level of dynamic stability involved, I think.
Once there's any water movement, small waves and such, the twitchiness seems to disappear. It's still there but you don't notice it because you're working with the water.
They both have good secondary stability.

Mike Savage
South West Cork

Messages In This Thread

Other: To V Or Not To V
Dave Reekie -- 1/7/2008, 4:51 am
Why I wouldn't want a flat bottom.
John Monroe -- 1/11/2008, 6:14 am
Re: Why I wouldn't want a flat bottom.
Bryan Hansel -- 1/18/2008, 8:56 am
Re: Why I wouldn't want a flat bottom.
John Monroe -- 1/19/2008, 4:49 am
Re: Why I wouldn't want a flat bottom. *LINK*
Bryan Hansel -- 1/19/2008, 9:30 pm
Re: Why I wouldn't want a flat bottom.
John Monroe -- 1/20/2008, 4:47 am
Re: Why I wouldn't want a flat bottom.
Kris Buttermore -- 1/22/2008, 1:28 pm
Re: Why I wouldn't want a flat bottom.
Bryan Hansel -- 1/20/2008, 7:07 pm
Re: Why I wouldn't want a flat bottom.
Bill Hamm -- 1/17/2008, 8:10 pm
Re: Why I wouldn't want a flat bottom.
John Monroe -- 1/18/2008, 5:18 am
Re: Why I wouldn't want a flat bottom.
Mike Savage -- 1/11/2008, 12:06 pm
Re: Why I wouldn't want a flat bottom.
John Monroe -- 1/12/2008, 4:14 am
Size matters with flat bottoms
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/12/2008, 4:15 pm
part 2 of above *Pic*
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/15/2008, 1:07 am
Re: part 2 of above
John Monroe -- 1/18/2008, 5:04 am
Re: part 2 of above
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/18/2008, 6:25 pm
Re: Other: To V Or Not To V
Bill Hamm -- 1/8/2008, 5:34 am
it goes deeper than a deep V *Pic*
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/7/2008, 10:42 pm
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Jay Babina------WebKitFormBoundaryHGkfW3+5m+ViUKBv -- 1/7/2008, 9:21 am
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Bill Hamm -- 1/8/2008, 5:29 am
Re: To V Or Not To V------WebKitFormBoundaryHGkfW3 *LINK* *Pic*
Dave Reekie -- 1/7/2008, 9:43 am
Re: To V Or Not To V------WebKitFormBoundaryHGkfW3
Tom Simpson -- 1/9/2008, 3:28 am
Re: To V Or Not To V------WebKitFormBoundaryHGkfW3 *LINK* *Pic*
David Reekie -- 1/10/2008, 6:38 am
Re: To V Or Not To V------WebKitFormBoundaryHGkfW3
Tom Simpson -- 1/10/2008, 10:42 pm
Re: To V Or Not To V------WebKitFormBoundaryHGkfW3
David Reekie -- 1/16/2008, 3:53 am
V-hull or not
Jay Babina -- 1/7/2008, 10:21 am
Re: V-hull or not
Dave Reekie -- 1/7/2008, 12:18 pm
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Jay Babina------WebKitFormBoundarygF0AAApM+kRZGKWR -- 1/7/2008, 12:29 pm
Re: V-hull or not------WebKitFormBoundarygF0AAApM+
Toni V -- 1/8/2008, 2:11 pm
Re: V-hull or not------WebKitFormBoundarygF0AAApM+
Mike Savage -- 1/8/2008, 6:46 pm
Re: Other: To V Or Not To V
skiffrace -- 1/7/2008, 8:04 am
Re: Other: To V Or Not To V
Dave Reekie -- 1/7/2008, 9:24 am
Re: Other: To V Or Not To V
skiffrace -- 1/7/2008, 9:53 am
Re: Other: To V Or Not To V
Dave Reekie -- 1/7/2008, 10:26 am
Re: Other: To V Or Not To V
Toni V -- 1/8/2008, 2:05 pm
Re: Other: To V Or Not To V
David Reekie -- 1/10/2008, 6:44 am