Date: 11/6/2001, 8:43 pm
I checked out the boat on display at Crosscut Hardwoods in Seattle, and it is indeed a Cunningham S&G. It was built by a former employee, who left it behind. There is some hog in the keel at the panel scarf joints, but otherwise it appears well made. Can’t tell by looking where the Datum Water Level is of course, but it apparently has more rocker aft than forward. The adjustable skeg would offset that anomaly however. Shawn has convinced me that it can be a Good Thing in some circumstances (surf, confused seas, klapotis) to paddle a boat that turns on a dime, and this seems like the best possible compromise. (I decided the same thing several years ago about the Guillemot, but was too lazy to retrofit one.) The skeg can be fine-tuned to cancel out a beam wind, but the control is accessible without taking your hand off the paddle to reef it up if conditions go bad quickly. I have a call and an email in to Chris Cunningham, and will report back with clarification.
: I'm in the process of putting the Chris Cunningham/ Sea Kayaker stitch-n-glue
: kayak in 3-D using my CAD software at work. I had plotted all the panels
: in 2-D a while back, but am just now trying to work those flat panels
: 'virtually' into the 3-D shape of the kayak. Things are going well
: (although slow), but I came across something odd. The forewardmost form
: shows a rocker of 30mm -- about 1-3/16". The rearwardmost form shows
: a rocker of 55mm -- about 2-3/16". Both of these forms are at the
: point where the keel starts to roll upward into the stem and stern, so the
: locations of these rocker values are accurate.
: Long story short: there is 1" more rocker in the stern than in the bow.
: I've only seen one of these kayaks in person, and the owner had made a
: fixed skeg out of fiberglass about 1-1/2' long and about 1" deep at
: the stern, because he didn't build it with the retractable skeg that was
: included in the instructions and apparenly found out after-the-fact that
: it didn't track as well as he would have liked.
: I thought that Greenland kayaks were made fairly symmetrical so that they
: handled running with and into the wind equally well. And if anything, the
: non-Greenland kayak designs I've seen had less rocker at the stern than at
: the bow.
: I'm not sure how (or if) I'll fix this, I just thought I'd post this finding
: in case there are others out there considering building this kayak. The
: Seguin might be worth a harder look.
: Dean
Messages In This Thread
- Cunningham/Sea Kayaker stitch-n-glue design flaw?
Dean Trexel -- 10/25/2001, 1:42 am- Re: Cunningham/Sea Kayaker stitch-n-glue design fl
Pete Rudie -- 11/6/2001, 8:43 pm- And now for a word from the designer...
Pete Rudie -- 11/7/2001, 12:38 pm- Re: Cunningham/Sea Kayaker stitch-n-glue design fl
Dean Trexel -- 11/6/2001, 8:55 pm- Well, there you go, pilgrim... *NM*
Pete Rudie -- 11/6/2001, 9:27 pm
- Re: Cunningham/Sea Kayaker stitch-n-glue design fl
- Which offsets are you using?
Pete Rudie -- 11/4/2001, 12:54 am- Re: Which offsets are you using?
Dean Trexel -- 11/4/2001, 9:49 pm- Re: Which offsets are you using?
Pete Rudie -- 11/5/2001, 12:15 pm
- Re: Which offsets are you using?
Pete Rudie -- 11/4/2001, 1:26 pm - Re: Which offsets are you using?
- Re: Cunningham/Sea Kayaker stitch-n-glue design fl
Hans Friedel -- 10/26/2001, 6:23 am- Re: Cunningham/Sea Kayaker stitch-n-glue design fl
Richard Boyle -- 10/25/2001, 8:57 pm- Re: flaw vs. feature?
Mike Hanks -- 10/25/2001, 10:34 am- Re: flaw vs. feature?
Pete Rudie -- 11/4/2001, 1:35 pm
- Inherent design feature
West -- 10/25/2001, 3:18 am - And now for a word from the designer...
- Re: Cunningham/Sea Kayaker stitch-n-glue design fl