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Re: Strip: North Star form modification
By:Rob Macks
Date: 11/10/2001, 11:05 am
In Response To: Re: Strip: North Star form modification (Erich Eppert)

: Hi Rob. I have built on both types of forms and for a kayak I like the box
: beam approach. I was just wondering if it can be done. The ability to turn
: the whole form over without disturbing the stations is a very nice way of
: building. You have designed a great kayak and one that I have been very
: interested in building. Can it be done or is there too much rocker in the
: hull to allow this?
: Best regards, Erich

The only time you'd have problems with stations shifting using an external strongback would be with the use of duct tape on station edges, since nothing will stick to duct tape.

To have an accurate boat shape, I feel it is critical for the strips to remain in contact with the stations at all times.

I don't use duct tape on my stations. All my kayaks have fine stem lines creating hollow recurve sections below the waterline. Duct tape will not allow the strips to form hollow sections without staples or brads being used.

I use staples below the waterline on my boats. I don't coat my stations here either since I want the hull to remain in contact with the stations after the staples are removed. I don't want wood movement to pull the strips away from the forms distorting the hull shape before it is glassed.

If a long period of time transpires between the point where you finish stripping and remove staples and when you glass, the potential for changes in moisture content of your wood is great. This could cause your hull to deform if it pulls off duct tape.

Since I'm building professionally I won't take the risk of having a hull deform.

Since I don't coat my station edges with anything, enough glue seeps between the strips to fix the strips to the stations so station shifting once the strongback is removed is not an issue.

The fear of having the stations stuck in the boat is overblown.

My boat designs are very different from Nick's. I know he uses duct tape on his boats. I do not recommend using it on mine.

On another issue, the sections of the bow are quite small on the North Star making it difficult to attach an internal strongback.

I'd suggest following my plans. I think you will find it much easier if you do.

All the best,

Rob Macks
Laughing Loon CC&K
www.LaughingLoon.com

Messages In This Thread

Strip: North Star form modification
Erich Eppert -- 11/9/2001, 11:50 pm
Re: Strip: North Star form modification
Rob Macks -- 11/10/2001, 9:13 am
Re: Strip: North Star form modification
Erich Eppert -- 11/10/2001, 9:35 am
Re: Strip: North Star form modification
Rob Macks -- 11/10/2001, 11:05 am
Re: Very reasonable arguments against it
Shawn Baker -- 11/12/2001, 6:23 pm
Re: Strip: North Star form modification
daren neufeld -- 11/10/2001, 12:29 am