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Re: Only 1/32" Penetration ???.....
By:Pete Rudie
Date: 1/31/2002, 2:56 pm
In Response To: Only 1/32" Penetration ???..... (Joe)

: One thing I did just learn on wood restoration.com from Steve Smith (owner,
: inventer, head cheese). In his technical information report he states that
: tests show CPES will penetrate 2" on end grain and {ONLY} 1/32"
: on side grain. If this "inventor" and "tester" of CPES
: says his product will only seal the first 1/32" of the side grain of
: raw wood in the application we are most interested in .... Then I cannot
: see that it (with all the other unknowns) is WORTH IT ! I mean it seems to
: me that the "Clear Coat" will penetrate the side grain that far
: (1/32"). Am I missing something with this figure in his research? Why
: bother using CPES if it's penetration is (according to the
: "inventor") only 1/32"?

I was surprised by that too. The side grain of my WRC Greenland stick drank the stuff up within seconds. Severne watched it, was quite amazing really. Maybe Mr. Smith (to his credit) believes in the "Under-Promise but Over-Deliver" school of business marketing philosophy. IMHO his claim is extremely conservative. In my homegrown side by side comparison with S3 Clear Coat, there was no comparison. CPES dove right inside the grain on Doug fir, and CC lay on the surface with very little penetration. I found that CC was really good at wetting out 4 oz. S-glass, a pretty tough job indeed, but it has nowhere near the penetrating ability of CPES into the wood fiber.

Messages In This Thread

Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
Joe -- 1/30/2002, 8:20 pm
Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
Steve Smith -- 2/1/2002, 4:38 pm
Thank you Mr. Smith
Pete Rudie -- 2/1/2002, 5:52 pm
Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
Jim Chowning -- 2/1/2002, 10:40 am
Thanks for the answer
Pete Rudie -- 2/1/2002, 12:09 pm
Re: Thanks for the answer
Jim Chowning/The Rot doctor -- 2/1/2002, 12:55 pm
Re: Thanks for the answer
LeeG -- 2/1/2002, 1:41 pm
Re: Thanks for the answer
Jim Chowning/The Rot doctor -- 2/2/2002, 12:31 pm
Re: Thanks for the answer *Pic*
Pete Rudie -- 2/2/2002, 1:46 pm
Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
Severne -- 1/31/2002, 11:52 am
Just when things looked clear...
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 9:31 pm
Re: Just when things looked clear...
Joe -- 2/1/2002, 3:01 am
Re: you are a reasonable guy
LeeG -- 1/31/2002, 10:52 pm
Only 1/32" Penetration ???.....
Joe -- 1/31/2002, 2:40 pm
Re: Greater Penetration
Chip Sandresky -- 2/1/2002, 12:45 pm
Re: Only 1/32" Penetration ???.....
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 2:56 pm
Re: Only 1/32" Penetration ???.....
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 2/1/2002, 10:54 am
Good point. And it IS Softwood. *NM*
Joe -- 2/1/2002, 11:11 am
however
mike allen ---> -- 1/31/2002, 3:05 pm
Re: however
Jim Chowning/The Rot doctor -- 2/1/2002, 7:36 pm
Re: however
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 6:22 pm
Re: however
mike allen ---> -- 1/31/2002, 6:38 pm
I asked Dr.Rot to come and answer us HERE!
Joe -- 1/31/2002, 4:45 pm
Re: I asked Dr.Rot to come and answer us HERE!
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 2/1/2002, 10:49 am
Re: Only 1/32" Penetration ???.....
LeeG -- 1/31/2002, 3:01 pm
It's not really blush .....
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 1:40 am
But could it be . . .
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/31/2002, 10:33 pm
Good point,
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 11:50 pm
MORE than fair. Thanks *NM*
Joe -- 1/31/2002, 7:31 pm
Re: It's not really blush .....
Joe -- 1/31/2002, 3:04 am
Re: It's not really blush .....
LeeG -- 1/31/2002, 3:27 am
Re: Pure Speculation...
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/31/2002, 9:02 am
Re: Pure Speculation...
Tom Johansen -- 1/31/2002, 5:53 pm
Re: Pure Speculation...
LeeG -- 1/31/2002, 8:31 pm
Re: Pure Speculation...
Jim Chowning/The Rot doctor -- 2/1/2002, 2:01 pm
Re: Pure Speculation...
LeeG -- 2/1/2002, 5:17 pm
No speculation here...
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 6:15 pm
Dr. Rot replies ....
Joe -- 1/31/2002, 7:01 pm
Re: immaculate speculation
LeeG -- 1/31/2002, 2:56 pm
Limitations
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 11:21 am
Re: Limitations
Jim Chowning/The Rot doctor -- 2/1/2002, 1:49 pm
Re: Limitations
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/31/2002, 12:59 pm
Re: More Speculation...
Shawn Baker -- 1/31/2002, 10:46 am
Solving solvent worries
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/30/2002, 10:50 pm
Re: Solving solvent worries
Joe -- 1/31/2002, 1:12 am
Re: Solving solvent worries
Jim Chowning/The Rot doctor -- 2/1/2002, 1:16 pm
Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
LeeG -- 1/30/2002, 8:54 pm
Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
Joe -- 1/30/2002, 10:13 pm
Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
LeeG -- 1/30/2002, 11:17 pm
Re: Epoxy: Good questions
don -- 1/30/2002, 10:48 pm
Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
Jon Murray -- 1/30/2002, 10:35 pm