Date: 1/31/2002, 11:50 pm
and that is what Mr. Smith from CPES said too in a recent post in this thread. Trouble is, he gave no advice about what to do about it. I still say "rinse it off", whatever it is. Encapsulating that witches' brew under the glass cannot be a good idea, of that I am certain.
: Just a thought here. The "slime" you encountered may not have had
: anything to do with the chemistry of the epoxy component of the CPES. It
: may have been a reaction between the solvents in the CPES and oils in the
: wood.
: Was your greenland paddle made of red cedar?
: The soup of solvents that gets mixed up with the CPES has some
: characteristics which, from the descriptions I am reading, suggest that
: they might also dissolve the essential oils which are in woods like red
: cedar. Just as the solvents can soak into the wood and "drag along
: with them" the epoxy, why can't those same solvents 1) saturate the
: wood, 2)dissolve oils found in the wood 3) carry those thinned and
: dissolved oils along as the solvents go through the wood and 4) leave a
: film of those oils resting on the surface -- floating above the cured
: epoxy -- when the solvents evaporate.
: We know that a final coat of polyester resin is frequently mixed with wax,
: styrene plastic and solvents, all of which float to the surface. The
: solvent evaporates leaving the styrene and/or wax behind to seal the
: polyester resin from air so it can cure. I'm wondering if something
: similar is happening with the CPES. I know some people wipe down red cedar
: with acetone before finishing it, or gluing it, in order to remove any
: oils on the surface, so if acetone is a part of the solvent mix in CPES (
: and acetone is used as a solvent with other epoxies) then this may just be
: a case of the solvent moving the wood oils through the wood.
: Anyhow, it's just a thought.
: A bit of chemical investigation on the "scum" would tell us if it
: was blush or wood oils. Anyone get a chemistry set for Xmas?
: PGJ
Messages In This Thread
- Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
Joe -- 1/30/2002, 8:20 pm- Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
Steve Smith -- 2/1/2002, 4:38 pm- Thank you Mr. Smith
Pete Rudie -- 2/1/2002, 5:52 pm
- Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
Jim Chowning -- 2/1/2002, 10:40 am- Thanks for the answer
Pete Rudie -- 2/1/2002, 12:09 pm- Re: Thanks for the answer
Jim Chowning/The Rot doctor -- 2/1/2002, 12:55 pm- Re: Thanks for the answer
LeeG -- 2/1/2002, 1:41 pm- Re: Thanks for the answer
Jim Chowning/The Rot doctor -- 2/2/2002, 12:31 pm- Re: Thanks for the answer *Pic*
Pete Rudie -- 2/2/2002, 1:46 pm
- Re: Thanks for the answer *Pic*
- Re: Thanks for the answer
- Re: Thanks for the answer
- Re: Thanks for the answer
- Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
Severne -- 1/31/2002, 11:52 am- Just when things looked clear...
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 9:31 pm- Re: Just when things looked clear...
Joe -- 2/1/2002, 3:01 am- Re: you are a reasonable guy
LeeG -- 1/31/2002, 10:52 pm - Re: you are a reasonable guy
- Only 1/32" Penetration ???.....
Joe -- 1/31/2002, 2:40 pm- Re: Greater Penetration
Chip Sandresky -- 2/1/2002, 12:45 pm- Re: Only 1/32" Penetration ???.....
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 2:56 pm- Re: Only 1/32" Penetration ???.....
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 2/1/2002, 10:54 am- Good point. And it IS Softwood. *NM*
Joe -- 2/1/2002, 11:11 am
- however
mike allen ---> -- 1/31/2002, 3:05 pm- Re: however
Jim Chowning/The Rot doctor -- 2/1/2002, 7:36 pm- Re: however
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 6:22 pm- Re: however
mike allen ---> -- 1/31/2002, 6:38 pm
- I asked Dr.Rot to come and answer us HERE!
Joe -- 1/31/2002, 4:45 pm- Re: I asked Dr.Rot to come and answer us HERE!
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 2/1/2002, 10:49 am
- Re: however
- Re: Only 1/32" Penetration ???.....
LeeG -- 1/31/2002, 3:01 pm - Good point. And it IS Softwood. *NM*
- Re: Only 1/32" Penetration ???.....
- Re: Just when things looked clear...
- It's not really blush .....
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 1:40 am- But could it be . . .
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/31/2002, 10:33 pm- Good point,
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 11:50 pm
- MORE than fair. Thanks *NM*
Joe -- 1/31/2002, 7:31 pm- Re: It's not really blush .....
Joe -- 1/31/2002, 3:04 am- Re: It's not really blush .....
LeeG -- 1/31/2002, 3:27 am- Re: Pure Speculation...
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/31/2002, 9:02 am- Re: Pure Speculation...
Tom Johansen -- 1/31/2002, 5:53 pm- Re: Pure Speculation...
LeeG -- 1/31/2002, 8:31 pm- Re: Pure Speculation...
Jim Chowning/The Rot doctor -- 2/1/2002, 2:01 pm- Re: Pure Speculation...
LeeG -- 2/1/2002, 5:17 pm
- Re: Pure Speculation...
- No speculation here...
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 6:15 pm- Dr. Rot replies ....
Joe -- 1/31/2002, 7:01 pm
- Re: Pure Speculation...
- Re: immaculate speculation
LeeG -- 1/31/2002, 2:56 pm- Limitations
Pete Rudie -- 1/31/2002, 11:21 am- Re: Limitations
Jim Chowning/The Rot doctor -- 2/1/2002, 1:49 pm- Re: Limitations
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/31/2002, 12:59 pm - Re: Limitations
- Re: More Speculation...
Shawn Baker -- 1/31/2002, 10:46 am - Re: Pure Speculation...
- Re: Pure Speculation...
- Re: Pure Speculation...
- Good point,
- Solving solvent worries
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/30/2002, 10:50 pm- Re: Solving solvent worries
Joe -- 1/31/2002, 1:12 am- Re: Solving solvent worries
Jim Chowning/The Rot doctor -- 2/1/2002, 1:16 pm
- Re: Solving solvent worries
- Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
LeeG -- 1/30/2002, 8:54 pm- Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
Joe -- 1/30/2002, 10:13 pm- Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
LeeG -- 1/30/2002, 11:17 pm- Re: Epoxy: Good questions
don -- 1/30/2002, 10:48 pm- Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
Jon Murray -- 1/30/2002, 10:35 pm - Re: Epoxy: Good questions
- Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....
- Thank you Mr. Smith
- Re: Epoxy: To Evaporate and Blush or not to .....