Lots & Lots & LOTS of them in the red cedar I'm planning on buying wood while I'm in the Northwest next summer for the next two boats. Std & Btr cedar in Seattle looks MUCH better than the select stuff I could find in Phoenix. I like the look of the knots, but they're impossible to get fair with the wood around them.

The Port Orford cedar, on the other hand, cuts, saws, and sands wonderfully, but the grain looks burled when finished. I sure would like to find more of it!