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Re: Great Ideas and Faux Hybrids
By:Eric
Date: 3/13/2002, 5:17 pm
In Response To: Great Ideas and even more questions. (David Ross)

Uh, second thoughts:

1} If you want to skin-cover your kayak, you may prefer a cotton decking in the tradish fashion. Cotton soaks water and shrinks & gets tighter as it does so. Consequently it becomes sort of waterproof in the process.
It also gets heavier which raises the center of gravity a little.
Hypalon would I think suffer from UV and would need some covering anyway: that wouldn't be the short way, I'm afraid. Let alone the whole p-i-a stitching jig.
My choice would be truck tarp, the lighter quality would do, but this should not be confused with car tarp, I mean the knit blue or green kind that's not waterproof.
Truck tarp can be glued with special vinyl glue (some brand name has been given in one or two recent posts, including one by Paul G. Robinson I think) ; it is material sandwiched between two layers of peeveessee.
It resists Ultra-Violet's ardors. It does not stretch.
It has been used by manufacturers of folding kayaks such as Nautiraid, Pouch (and others than have disappeared).

2} My humble opinion would be...that you keep on building your deck the same way you did the hull, i-e stitch and glue the deck panel(s).
Since your idea was to strip the deck, here is suggestion : don't epoxy the deck once fitted to the sheer clamps ; instead slit a series of strips in a thin covering sheet, and another in a contrasted colour, in a shape that would be parallel to the sheer, then join both sides at the center line atop the deck.
Glue & epoxy them.
You may start from the center line to go faster, but it won't look as good.
I never tried, nor ever heard of any builder trying, this method.
Provided it is strong enough, it would be faster and easier than real-stripping your deck.

Eric

: That's a great idea! if I built a strong back (right now, the deck forms are
: hot glued to the hull), I could even work on it during the summer while I
: paddle the SOF deck! (Or even start a full stripper)
: I posted this to the greenland forum but, wanted to stick it here as well to
: see what response I got.
: *snip*
: Hello all,
: I just completed the hull on my Guillemot S&G and I'm considering a Skin on
: Frame deck for it. Initialy, I was going to strip the deck but, spring is
: near and time is short. I'm guessing SOF would be much faster to complete
: vice an elaborate strip deck.
: I know little about SOF construction. What's the best material to use for the
: fabric and where can I get it? Types of paint? Connecting methods to a
: completed S&G hull? Is it possible (or even smart) to put a hatch in?
: How thick should the stringers be? What type of wood is best? (I'm on a tight
: budget)
: Is there a good website detailing SOF construction?
: Thanks a ton for any data. Can't wait to get on the water!
: -david
: *snip*
: Thanks again!

Messages In This Thread

Skin-on-Frame: With S&G Hull
David Ross -- 3/13/2002, 9:22 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: With S&G Hull
Chip Sandresky -- 8/28/2002, 3:37 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: With S&G Hull
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/13/2002, 4:51 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: With S&G Hull
Eric -- 3/13/2002, 4:25 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: With S&G Hull
Brian Nystrom -- 3/13/2002, 12:27 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: With S&G Hull
David Ross -- 3/13/2002, 12:37 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: With S&G Hull
Scott Ferguson -- 3/13/2002, 1:19 pm
Great Ideas and even more questions.
David Ross -- 3/13/2002, 1:58 pm
Re: Great Ideas and Faux Hybrids
Eric -- 3/13/2002, 5:17 pm
Re: Great Ideas and even more questions.
Scott Ferguson -- 3/13/2002, 2:21 pm
Re: Great Ideas and even more questions.
David Ross -- 3/13/2002, 3:08 pm
Re: Great Ideas and even more questions. *Pic*
Scott Ferguson -- 3/13/2002, 4:24 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: With S&G Hull
Rehd -- 3/13/2002, 11:47 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: With S&G Hull
Bob -- 3/13/2002, 12:21 pm