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Re: Spline joints
By:RMAN
Date: 3/22/2002, 1:18 am
In Response To: Spline joints (Paul G. Jacobson)

: The plywood is either 3mm or 4mm thick in total. With 25.4 mm to an inch you
: have 3mm plywood coming in at just under 1/8th of an inch thick. A 1/8th
: inch kerf would be bigger than the thickness of the 3mm plywood, and it
: would simply turn your "joint" to a pile of sawdust. If youwere
: working with 4mm plywood, then by very careful centering you could remove
: 1/8th inch of material from the center of the plywood, but you would be
: left with a front and rear veneer face that was so thin as to have
: negligible structural strength.

: As Ted Henry's pictures show, a 1/16th kerf eats out the center layer-- which
: is just under 2mm thick -- and leaves the full thickness of each of the
: face veneers.

: While the wood that you remove has the grain going at right angles to the
: grain on the face veneers, you would not want to use a spline that had the
: same orientation as the center veneer. If you did, your joint could fail
: with jsut gentl flexing of the joined plywood sheets, as the spline would
: split along a grain line (which would be parallel to the edges of the
: joint). Your options therefore are to make splines with the grain running
: in the same direction as the face grain, or to make splines that had grain
: running at an angle -- say 30 to 60 degrees of the angle of the face
: grain.

: ass for stock for the splines, you could use scraps from your 4mm plywood, if
: you have any. Either use a saw to remove the face veneers from your
: scraps, leaving the center core -- which should be the right thickness. Or
: use your saw or power planer to cut through the plywood and reduce it to
: the desired thickness. If you do this you'll have a spline that is made of
: two plies. One will be the outer veneer and the other will be a thinned
: center ply. This can be used at almost any angle or alignment as a spline.
: If you have no scraps of your particular boat plywood, you can use any
: other plywood scraps, or solid wood stock that you might wish to reduce to
: size. If you are working with solid stock, you can use many tiny chips,
: too. Rip a strip to a 1/16th thickness and cut it to length to fit your
: groove, stacking as many of these as it takes to fill the slot.

: Hope this helps.

: PGJ

THIS BULLETIN BOARD IS GREAT.THANKS FOR ALL THE PICTURES AND INSIGHTS.
I WILL PRACTICE A BIT WITH LUAN WOOD AND MAY PROCURE SOME 1/16" HOBBY PLY AND
OR CUT SOME ASH SPLINTS WITH THE GRAIN ORIENTED AT AN ANGLE AS SUGGESTED.

THANKS AGAIN

RMAN

Messages In This Thread

S&G: PYGMY BOATS: SPLINE JOINT TECHNIQUE
RMAN -- 3/21/2002, 9:43 pm
another technique
mike allen ---> -- 3/22/2002, 8:13 pm
Spline joints
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/21/2002, 11:23 pm
Re: Spline joints
Tom -- 3/23/2002, 7:31 am
Re: Spline joints
RMAN -- 3/22/2002, 1:18 am
Re: Spline joints
KenB -- 3/22/2002, 12:16 am
Re: Spline joints
Terry -- 3/22/2002, 11:05 pm
Re: S&G: PYGMY BOATS: SPLINE JOINT TECHNIQUE
jim kozel -- 3/21/2002, 10:17 pm
Re: S&G: PYGMY BOATS: SPLINE JOINT TECHNIQUE
Rehd -- 3/21/2002, 11:13 pm
Re: S&G: SPLINE JOINT ELEGANCE
Mike Hanks -- 3/22/2002, 9:48 am
Re: S&G: SPLINE JOINT ELEGANCE
Rehd -- 3/22/2002, 7:38 pm
Re: S&G: SPLINE JOINT ELEGANCE
Mike Hanks -- 3/22/2002, 11:37 pm
Click-Click !! :) *NM*
Rehd -- 3/23/2002, 1:46 am
What about an inlay
David Ross -- 3/22/2002, 1:10 pm
Re: What about an inlay
Paul G.Jacobson -- 3/23/2002, 12:03 am
Re: What about an inlay
Mike Hanks -- 3/22/2002, 3:00 pm
Re: What about an inlay
Shawn Baker -- 3/22/2002, 5:05 pm
Re: S&G: PYGMY BOATS: SPLINE JOINT TECHNIQUE
Keith Marsh -- 3/22/2002, 9:31 am
Pictures might help *Pic*
Ted Henry -- 3/21/2002, 10:49 pm
Spline Joint Parts *NM* *Pic*
Ted Henry -- 3/21/2002, 10:51 pm
Finished Joint *NM* *Pic*
Ted Henry -- 3/21/2002, 10:54 pm
Re: Finished Joint
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 3/22/2002, 11:08 am
You can't do a lap joint with a kit...
Brian Nystrom -- 3/22/2002, 12:50 pm
Re: You can't do a lap joint with a kit...
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 3/22/2002, 1:48 pm
Re: You can't do a lap joint with a kit...
Shawn Baker -- 3/22/2002, 4:53 pm
Re: You can't do a lap joint with a kit...
Mike Hanks -- 3/22/2002, 2:55 pm
Re: You can't do a lap joint with a kit...
Shawn Baker -- 3/22/2002, 4:55 pm
Re: You can't do a lap joint with a kit...
David Ross -- 3/22/2002, 1:17 pm
Re: Finished Joint
Ted Henry -- 3/22/2002, 12:47 pm
Re: Finished Joint
LeeG -- 3/22/2002, 8:21 pm
Re: Finished Joint
Shawn Baker -- 3/22/2002, 12:26 pm