Date: 12/17/2002, 11:10 am
Hey Tom, what do you think about fiberglass tube? There is a righteous assortment available from these guys:
http://www.mgs4u.com/fiberg.htm
and more info at the link below. Their tubes are designed to nest, and the prices look good too. At 1/8" wall thickness they may be stiffer than aluminum, but maybe we can just drop down in diameter to get optimum flexibility?
BTW, where did you find 3/4 X .049 ( 6061-T6) aluminum at $1.00 per foot? It goes for 2 or 3 times that around here.
: You mention the option of leaving the wood in place and building what would
: be a very heavy kayak. More important than the weight gain, would be the
: incredible rigidity of the tubes. This leads to another , but similar
: consideration. Since the scrap aluminum is from a ham radio antenna,
: my guess is that it has very thick walls ? If so, it may simply be too
: rigid in it's own right to assume the steep curvatures of the chines, and
: gunwales in particular.
: I've noticed on this forum that most builders, yourself included, are
: meticulous in wood selection, be it Woodstip, S & G, or SOF stringers and
: ribs.
: The selection of folding kayak materials is no less critical, but I've
: noticed that most builders attempting this type kayak, seem to view it as a
: poor substitute for the real thing, and therefore not worth the additional
: cost
: of doing it right.
: At $1.00 per foot, 3/4 X .049 ( 6061-T6) aluminum is the best all around
: tubing for strength, flexibility, and aluminum insert compatibility. An
: alternative is 3/4" X .035 as it is lighter, more flexible, and costs
: about 10% less. It's only drawback is that it's wall thickness is a sloppy
: fit with all available aluminum insert sizes.
: Wall thickness is critical, not only for weight, but for the flex required
: to conform to the shape of the hull. By selecting the correct building
: materials, your Anas Acuta will be not just a folding kayak, but rather,
: a sub 30lb. kayak capable of awesome performance.
: Perhaps the stubborn wooden dowels are trying to tell you something.
: Tom
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Shawn Baker -- 12/17/2002, 12:00 am- Look up impossible in the dictionary...
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Paul G. Jacobson -- 12/17/2002, 8:25 pm- Oak!!
Shawn Baker -- 12/17/2002, 10:07 pm- Pass the salt, I will eat my words...
Rick Allnutt -- 12/17/2002, 10:20 pm- Re: not just yet!
Shawn Baker -- 12/18/2002, 12:20 pm
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- Putting wood plugs in aluminum tubes
Bill Price -- 12/17/2002, 2:47 pm- Re: Material: Removing wood plugs from aluminum tu
Reg Lake -- 12/17/2002, 12:27 pm- Re: Material: Removing wood plugs from aluminum tu
Tom Yost -- 12/17/2002, 10:11 am- Re: Material: Removing wood plugs from aluminum tu *LINK*
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Tom Yost -- 12/17/2002, 1:34 pm
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Shawn Baker -- 12/17/2002, 10:21 am- Re: Material: Removing wood plugs from aluminum tu
don flowers -- 12/17/2002, 11:00 pm- chemical warfare
Don Flowers -- 12/17/2002, 11:01 am- lignin destroyers, wood eaters
mike allen -- 12/17/2002, 1:21 pm
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Timothy -- 12/17/2002, 8:54 am- Re: Material: Removing wood plugs from aluminum tu
Jim Elbrecht -- 12/17/2002, 8:16 am- Re: Material: Removing wood plugs from aluminum tu
Kurt Loup, Baton Rouge -- 12/17/2002, 9:22 am
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Ross Leidy -- 12/17/2002, 6:50 am- I love this! Ross. No damage to metal. *NM*
Tony -- 12/18/2002, 7:41 pm- Re: ...but I'll have problems stopping them! *NM*
Shawn Baker -- 12/17/2002, 10:17 am - Re: ...but I'll have problems stopping them! *NM*
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Scott Fitzgerrell -- 12/17/2002, 12:50 am- Re: Material: Removing wood plugs from aluminum tu
John K -- 12/17/2002, 9:52 pm- Re: extra long bits
Tony -- 12/18/2002, 7:13 pm
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