Date: 1/1/2003, 1:58 pm
Well I see why CLC prefers scarfs to butt joints. I�m trying to align the panels for my outriggers, and I�m having a devil of a time doing it. I used fiberglass butt joints, where you butt the panels together and use layers of fiberglass tape to bound the two panels together. I wound up with a really stiff joint but that�s the problem, they�re too stiff. That�s why I couldn�t get the panels to torture correctly. Even when I reduced the beam of the bulkheads for the floats, the panels wouldn�t take the shape. The cross section would be terrific at the bulkheads. But the minute it came across a butt joint, it would flatten right out. That�s why that shear clamp scarf blew out, the butt joint is stronger than the shear scarf!
I used three layers of glass at each but joint. 2in 4in and 6in wide tape, so it�s feathered out. The end thickness is a great as the plywood.
OK give up on torturing the panels and go for a simple Vee shape. Well I�ve still got a problem. I followed standard practice and staggered the butt joints so joint they wouldn�t align on purpose
Port float
4 ft, 8 ft, 8 ft port panel
8 ft, 8 ft, 4 ft starboard panel
Starboard float
8 ft, 8 ft, 4 ft port panel
4 ft, 8 ft, 8 ft starboard panel
But the butt joints are flattening the panels out, and since the joints are staggered, the centerlines of the hulls are weaving back and forth like a snake! It�s not much 2 degrees, but over 20ft it really shows up.
I could jig the deck to force it to shape, but it will just pop back after it�s removed from the jig.
I could pull the panels apart, and stitch them together so the scarfs are aligned
Port float
4 ft, 8 ft, 8 ft port panel
4 ft, 8 ft, 8 ft starboard panel
Starboard float
8 ft, 8 ft, 4 ft port panel
8 ft, 8 ft, 4 ft starboard panel
This should result in symmetric hulls, but there�s no way they will match each other. On the other hand I�m only going to have one hull in the water a a time. But now, I have to figure out how much aligning the scarfs is going to weaken the structure, and then calculate what I need to add structurally ( read more weight ) to make up for it.
Thoughts?
Messages In This Thread
- S&G: fiberglass taped butt joint vs scarf
Brian T. Cunningham -- 1/1/2003, 1:58 pm- the jig worked
Brian T. Cunningham -- 1/6/2003, 1:41 am - from the multihull boatbuilder list
Brian T. Cunningham -- 1/3/2003, 12:19 pm - Re: S&G: fiberglass taped butt joint vs scarf
srchr/gerald -- 1/2/2003, 2:32 pm - Re: S&G: Thinner joint and Heat ??
Rehd -- 1/1/2003, 2:21 pm- Well they could be smoother
Brian T. Cunningham -- 1/1/2003, 5:48 pm- Get rid of the inside tape
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/2/2003, 6:42 pm- Re: Get rid of the inside tape
Brian T. Cunningham -- 1/2/2003, 10:45 pm
- Re: Get rid of the inside tape
- Re: Well they could be smoother
joaquin -- 1/2/2003, 8:49 am- sanded a layer off last night
Brian T. Cunningham -- 1/2/2003, 2:57 pm- strongback or ???
Brian T. Cunningham -- 1/2/2003, 3:07 pm
- strongback or ???
- sanded a layer off last night
- Get rid of the inside tape
- Well they could be smoother
- Re: No Butts
Mike Scarborough -- 1/1/2003, 2:13 pm- shearclamps are on .....
Brian T. Cunningham -- 1/1/2003, 3:22 pm - Re: Not Fair !!!
Rehd -- 1/1/2003, 2:25 pm
- shearclamps are on .....
- the jig worked