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Re: Strip: Four Problems with strips
By:Shawn Baker
Date: 1/2/2003, 5:49 pm
In Response To: Strip: Four Problems with strips (Rick Sylvia)

Hi Rick,

As Jay mentioned, you're right on all counts. Relax, sip a beer or coffee, and get back to it.

You'll be out in gnarly conditions someday in this boat, grinning at how sturdy your little craft is, and all these small stressful spots will be but a memory. Woodstrip composite construction is just about a miracle.

Shawn

: Work on my Outer Island continues, although slowly. Over my Christmas
: vacation, I finished stripping the hull, and began the fairing and sanding
: process. I discovered four things. I "think" I know the answers,
: but want to double-check with you folks, if for no other reason, than to
: get some confirmation and a better feeling about the mess I've created.

: 1. GLUE LINES - While fairing, I kept planning, and planning, trying to get
: rid of some glue lines. Some aren't going away and some are getting
: bigger. Apparently, my B&C joints weren't as tight in some places as I
: thought, and I have some gaps that just filled up with glue squeezeout and
: hardened. I'm thinking that the glue lines won't harm the epoxy and
: glassing processes/strength, and that it's just a matter of looks in that
: the glue lines will show up a little darker. Is that correct? If so, much
: of the glue lines are on the football, which is made of Cypress, which is
: yellowish in it's raw state anyway, so "shouldn't" be too
: noticable anyway after the yellowing affect of the epoxy and varnish ....
: I hope. Does this all sound about right?

: 2. UNGLUED SECTIONS - While planning/sanding, I discovered some strips that
: just flat out didn't get glued to the adjoining strip, for as much as an
: 8-10 inch run. Unless you push on it, you can't tell. I'm thinking that
: all this gluing is only temporary anyway, and after the expoy and
: glassing, the glue between strips is really fairly unimportant since all
: the strength will now come from the glass. Is that true, or do I need to
: go get a glue syringe and try to get some glue in there?

: 3. TOO THIN - Due to issue #1, I have some sections where I'm simply scared
: to do any more planning or sanding for fear of making the wood too thin.
: In some places, I've got to be at a thickness less than 1/8 by now, maybe
: less. I haven't busted through it anywhere - yet. After the glassing
: process, that thinness shouldn't make too big a difference, should it? If
: it will, will a little extra glass in those areas make up for it, and
: would that be advisable?

: 4. FOOTBALL ACCENT STRIP - I did an accent strip to seperate the football
: area from the rest of the hull. I had some problems cutting out the strips
: then inserting the accents. Consequently, I used a *LOT* of little slivers
: to fill in some gaps. And, when I say a "LOT", I mean a whole
: boat load (no pun intended). Consequently, I have a nagging fear about the
: structural quality and had a nightmare about the boat breaking apart along
: the accent lines. So, again, I'm thinking that once I put some epoxy on
: it, all will be well. I'm thinking that the expoxy will soak in and adhere
: everything together better and stronger than the "temporary"
: yellow glue. Is that correct?

: So, are all those things true, or am I kidding myself????? Any and all tips,
: comments, etc are greatly, greatly appreciated.

: Thanks a huge amount for the help. If I can catch up with my neice, I'll
: borrow her digital camera and post a picture of what I have so far. From a
: few feet away, it looks great. But if you examine it up close, I'm a
: little embarrased by the quality of the workmanship. Oh well, it's built
: for paddling, not for gawking at (although both would be nice).

: Rick

Messages In This Thread

Strip: Four Problems with strips
Rick Sylvia -- 1/2/2003, 9:22 am
Re: Strip: Four Problems with strips
Rick Allnutt -- 1/3/2003, 9:16 am
Re: Strip: THANKS!
Rick Sylvia -- 1/3/2003, 8:51 am
Re: Strip: Four Problems with strips
Shawn Baker -- 1/2/2003, 5:49 pm
Re: Strip: Four Problems with strips *LINK*
Marcel Rodriguez -- 1/2/2003, 11:47 am
Re: Strip: Four Problems with strips
Jim Kozel -- 1/2/2003, 10:34 am
Re: Strip: Four Problems with strips
Jay Babina -- 1/2/2003, 10:23 am