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Re: Seeking: info on glue
By:Larry C.
Date: 1/4/2003, 11:18 am
In Response To: Re: Seeking: info on glue (Rehd)

: Hi Bill

: All of the above mentioned materials have been tried and used, some for
: specialty applications. Probably your best bet is the Titebond II. But,
: that's just a personal oppinion. ?? It's good, all-round basic glue. It
: sets in 15 minutes ( approx. in 70+* temps., slower in the colder regions
: ) cures pretty much in an hour ( again, maybe longer in the cold ). No
: tricks, no gimmicks, just glue, clamp and wait. Resist the temptation to
: load up the joints and you won't have as many runs and smears to clean up
: later. You want just enough to get a tiny bead of squeeze-out at the
: joints, without runs if you can.

: Hope that helps!

: Rehd

Bill & Rhed,
I have a different opinion of Titebond II. I'm using it for the first time on my RBA project. I have previously used Elmers yellow carpenters glue and Titebond yellow carpenters glue.
The reason I'm using TB II is because Rob said it does not soften from the heat of the sun, especially on the deck. My RBA is being built light weight, using thin strips and glass. I thought the TB II would offer a more waterproof glue if I ever puncture the thin hull. All in all it seemed like the way to go.

My observations using TB II:
The glue dries too quickly. I used a lot of full length (almost 20') strips on my boat. By the time I got to the far end with my staples (yes I love staples), clamps, bungees, etc. the glue was setting up.

Clean-up is a pain. The fast drying glue stains the wood quickly and is difficult to remove with wet rag before it stains. I hope this staining comes off. Newfound Woodworks says to NOT use Titebond II for this reason.

I test broke some scrap cut-outs from my deck to see where the break would be. All my sample breaks were at the cove bead glue joint which was very well clamped during drying. The broken joint only tore a little wood from the opposite surface, mostly broke at glue joint itself. Not good!

My conclusion: The very best glue for STRIP building I have used so far is Elmers yellow carpenters glue. It stays wet longer, making it easier to move strips around. It cleans off the surface easily without staining. The viscosity is about perfect, better than Titebond carpenters glue or TB II. When I test broke scraps. It did not break at the glue joint as it did with TB II.

These are just my observations, your mileage may vary.

Larry C.

Messages In This Thread

Seeking: info on glue
Bill Sheehy -- 1/4/2003, 3:37 am
Re: Follow up Question
Chris -- 1/4/2003, 5:49 pm
Re: Follow up Question
Bill Sheehy -- 1/4/2003, 9:29 pm
Re: Follow up Question
Warwick Carter -- 1/5/2003, 2:59 am
Re: Seeking: info on glue *LINK*
Marcel Rodriguez -- 1/4/2003, 1:30 pm
Re: Seeking: info on glue
Joe -- 1/4/2003, 2:57 pm
Re: Seeking: info on glue
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/7/2003, 10:22 am
Actually, everybody uses some epoxy as a glue
Paul G. Jacobson -- 1/6/2003, 10:48 pm
Re: Seeking: info on glue
Andy -- 1/5/2003, 9:59 pm
Re: Seeking: info on glue
Don Beale -- 1/4/2003, 12:36 pm
It works for me! *Pic*
Ted Henry -- 1/4/2003, 3:48 pm
Re: It works for me!
Bill Price -- 1/4/2003, 9:04 pm
Re: It works for me!
Ted Henry -- 1/5/2003, 1:17 pm
Re: It works for me!
Bill Price -- 1/6/2003, 1:02 am
How do you do your scarf joints?
Jack Sanderson -- 1/6/2003, 9:15 am
Re: How do you do your scarf joints?
Bill Price -- 1/6/2003, 1:38 pm
Re: How do you do your scarf joints?
KenC -- 1/6/2003, 9:16 pm
Re: It works for me!
Joe -- 1/4/2003, 4:13 pm
Re: It works for me!
Ted Henry -- 1/5/2003, 1:06 pm
Re: Seeking: info on glue
Rehd -- 1/4/2003, 4:15 am
Re: Seeking: info on glue
Larry C. -- 1/4/2003, 11:18 am
Re: Seeking: info on glue
Mike and Rikki -- 1/5/2003, 12:04 am
Re: Seeking: info on glue
Jason -- 1/4/2003, 7:18 pm
Re: Seeking: info on glue
Rehd -- 1/4/2003, 1:05 pm
Re: Seeking: info on glue
Larry C. -- 1/5/2003, 9:05 am
Re: Seeking: info on glue
Roy Morford -- 1/4/2003, 12:31 pm