Date: 1/7/2003, 5:08 pm
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: Bobby,
: Wood folders .... allow a closer match of arctic designs than you can
: get from alu tubing, as it's tough to make a sweptup bow (or stern)
: without deep gunwales and additional stanchions,
Isn't it presumably possible to curve the aluminum stringers enough to allow the bow upsweep and use skin tension to maintain a positive upward curve (as opposed to a bad downward curve!)?
: and curbing the fore
: deckridge from top of the coaming or masik, down to fore deck level then
: up to the top of the bow stem piece! Ash tree's amazing bendability lets
: us do that.
: Tom is a mastermind, but he builds Aleut-type iqyaxes (which the Russian
: imperialists unappropriately called baidarkas ;-} meaning small barks)
: that are generally flush-decked.
Having a peaked deck as with a traditional iqyax can be as simple as adding a 6th stringer at the deck.
Many Inuit designs are flush-decked...except for the masik/foredeck stringer areas.
I'm working on a folding Greenland kayak with flat decks (I probably will have 2 foredeck stringers between masik and footbrace frame) and 5 stringers--gunnels, chines, and keelson.
: On the other hand, alu tubes are lighter to portage, don't have to be
: varnished and can be assembled quite nicely through inner tubes.
And lend themselves _very_ well to the use of plastic frames.
I've wanted to build a folder for several years now, but shied away from the complexity of wood folder joints. (not that I couldn't do it...just didn't think it worth the time).
My first incarnation is sort of a prototype. Never having built a traditional SOF (perhaps I should have first), or any truely low-volume kayak, I'm using all scrap materials to build this first folder. After I get it completed and launched, I'll take what I've learned from it and build one exactly the size and shape I want.
Messages In This Thread
- Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s) *Pic*
Tom Yost -- 1/4/2003, 11:23 pm- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
ChrisO -- 1/6/2003, 12:44 pm- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
Tom Yost -- 1/6/2003, 1:15 pm
- Any plans available?
Brian T. Cunningham -- 1/6/2003, 1:43 am- Re: Any plans available? *LINK*
Tom Yost -- 1/6/2003, 9:55 am
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s) *LINK* *Pic*
Bobby Curtis -- 1/5/2003, 8:41 am- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
Eric -- 1/7/2003, 8:07 am- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s) *LINK* *Pic*
Shawn Baker -- 1/7/2003, 5:08 pm- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
John Schroeder -- 1/7/2003, 8:45 pm- Re: Skin-on-Frame: Anas Acuta Folding Kayak
Shawn Baker -- 1/8/2003, 11:35 am
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
Tom Yost -- 1/7/2003, 6:51 pm- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
Shawn Baker -- 1/7/2003, 7:27 pm- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
Tom Yost -- 1/7/2003, 9:38 pm
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: Anas Acuta Folding Kayak
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
Tom Yost -- 1/7/2003, 11:59 am- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
Tom Yost -- 1/7/2003, 11:58 am- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s) *LINK*
Eric -- 1/7/2003, 3:58 pm- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
Tom Yost -- 1/7/2003, 7:06 pm- Oops: Above Site Should Read: *LINK*
Eric -- 1/7/2003, 4:01 pm - Oops: Above Site Should Read: *LINK*
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s) *LINK* *Pic*
Tom Yost -- 1/5/2003, 11:25 am- Wow!...
srchr/gerald -- 1/5/2003, 11:49 am
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s) *LINK* *Pic*
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s) *Pic*
Tom Yost -- 1/4/2003, 11:32 pm- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
mike allen -- 1/7/2003, 12:00 pm- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s) *Pic*
Tom Yost -- 1/7/2003, 12:40 pm- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
Shawn Baker -- 1/7/2003, 5:11 pm- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
Tom Yost -- 1/7/2003, 6:01 pm
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
- Tundra?
Robert N Pruden -- 1/5/2003, 12:29 pm- Re: Tundra?
Tom Yost -- 1/5/2003, 1:01 pm- Cool! I mean, really cool! Brrrr!
Robert N Pruden -- 1/5/2003, 1:10 pm- Re: Cool! I mean, really cool! Brrrr!
Tom Yost -- 1/5/2003, 1:50 pm- Re: Cool! I mean, really cool! Brrrr! *LINK*
Robert N Pruden -- 1/5/2003, 2:49 pm
- Re: Cool! I mean, really cool! Brrrr! *LINK*
- Re: Cool! I mean, really cool! Brrrr!
- Cool! I mean, really cool! Brrrr!
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
srchr/gerald -- 1/5/2003, 12:22 am - Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s) *Pic*
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)
- Re: Skin-on-Frame: "Combi" Folding Kayak (s)