Date: 6/24/2003, 8:57 pm
I sent this email to Pygmy Boat about the hatch hold-down idea I used on my Artic Tern. I can't figure out how to post the photos to this board, but I can send them to anyone interested (or show me how to post them). --Derek
Hello PB,
I spoke to someone there the other day who was interested in seeing the hatch hold-down sysyem I came up with in place of the traditional three straps. The thumbscrews in the photos are stainless steel 1/4". The treaded portion is 1" long. I used a stainless 1/4" washer and a 1/8" ID neoprene washer above the hatch through which the thumbscrew goes. The neoprene washer makes the holes in the hatch water-tight and prevents marring the top of the hatch. Since it is only 1/8" ID, it also keeps the stainless washer in place. To the underside of the hatch lip I bonded a 1/4" stainless washer and nut using some steel impregnated two-part epoxy, into which the thumbscew fastens. This system gives a much cleaner look than straps, and is just as waterproof if not moreso. The thumbscrews have a profile of less than a half inch and have no sharp edges, so wet re-entry shouldn't be any more uncomfortable as a strap system. I had previously considered using a magnet-based system, but decided it may not take a wave without popping off the hatch. I also don't see the hatch dog idea as being very secure, and they don't look as good. The under-the-hatch bungee cord idea I considered, but felt it also could have a security problem if the contents shifted position, and it seemed it may be difficult to fashion the attachment points with this in mind. The only downside I see to the thumbscrews is that it takes a minute to open a hatch. This could be remedied by using aviation-style dzus fasteners, but for a small batch (the minimum I was quoted was 50 pieces) the cost is ~$16.00 each. If you like this hatch idea, I would love to get you interested in ordering a run of several hundred, bringing the cost down to less than $3.00 each. The dzus fasteners are available at www.dfcis.com; the stainless thumbscews (which are hard to find) are from www.microfasteners.com. (they are a special order even from them, so you'll have a minimum of 20 pieces).
Comments & suggestions, welcome, Derek
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- S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down
Derek -- 6/24/2003, 8:57 pm- Another source for stainless thumbscrews *Pic*
Paul G. Jacobson -- 7/4/2003, 1:47 am- S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down photos *Pic*
Marcel R. in Portland, OR -- 6/26/2003, 2:00 am- Re: S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down photos
Val Wann -- 6/26/2003, 6:26 pm- Re: S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down photos
Derek -- 6/27/2003, 10:26 am
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Don Lucas -- 6/26/2003, 11:43 am - Re: S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down photos
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Marcel R. in Portland, OR -- 6/26/2003, 1:59 am- S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down photos *Pic*
Marcel R. in Portland, OR -- 6/26/2003, 1:58 am- S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down photos *Pic*
Marcel R. in Portland, OR -- 6/26/2003, 1:56 am- Re: S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down *LINK*
Marcel R. in Portland, OR -- 6/25/2003, 2:18 am- Re: S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down
Dave Sprygada -- 6/25/2003, 8:23 am- Re: S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down
Marcel R. in Portland, Or. -- 6/25/2003, 11:49 am- Re: S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down
Dave Sprygada -- 6/26/2003, 8:37 am
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Dan G -- 6/25/2003, 9:42 am- Re: S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down
Shawn Baker -- 6/25/2003, 12:40 pm- Re: S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down *Pic*
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mike allen -- 6/24/2003, 9:51 pm - S&G: thumbscrew hatch hold-down photos *Pic*
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