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Re: Strip: Bad Kayak Haiku, Vol 2, No 1
By:William F. Cruz
Date: 11/4/2003, 4:25 am
In Response To: Re: Strip: Bad Kayak Haiku, Vol 2, No 1 (mike loriz)

Mike,
Thanks, but honestly, I was working from your own example (not unlike this bulletin board experience) and what my eight year old told me she learned in school the other day...or week. Sorry, I don't have the technology to post a picture, though I've been taking photographs along the way (all prints). However, here's a sample of the notes I've been taking:

North Star Notes 10/6-10/9
Sand, fillet, tape inside seam, install spacer pieces, laminate coaming.

Uncle Rick breezed into town Saturday. Went w/Mom down to Midway to get him. I wanted to go over early (to the shop, it's my Mom's garage) and work because a batch of good weather was forecasted, but I washed windows instead-what a crabby day that was...but I stayed late when Uncle Rick was getting settled and sanded the inside seam. Used a scrap piece (left over from Ripple's decks) with a Random Orbital 60 grit paper stapled to it. That got me into the bow-the extreem stern wasn't too difficult to get at by hand, and once the boat was on it's side, the midway between forward hatch and cockpit was accessable by hand as well. This is the way it worked when I was glassing that fillet on the inside seam-extensions for the bow; fillet with PVC pipe syringe adaptor (PVC pipe, connected with PVC fittings that held the syringe in place, with a smaller 1/2" length inside to depress the plunger, only needed it to be 2 to 3 feet long) and baby spoon to smooth out the bead...then the paper clip on a stick with eye screw and string to place the 9 oz tape (this idea came from the bulletin board last spring, sorry I can't remember the man's name who posted it)...then brush on a stick to wet out the tape. Started on the starboard side (right?), used three or four brushes and two or three syringes. I'm not sure how much epoxy was wasted, but not much... thickened with collidal silica and wood flower, System 3 epoxy...thick enough so it wouldn't run off the stirrer. Ran the bead, smoothed it out with the baby spoon, then laid the tape and wet it out w/System 3. There were areas where the glass didn't adhear to the hull-on Monday night as I sanded, I dremmeled to the wood and filled 'em as I laid up the fillet. Tues 10/7 saw the starboard side done, Wednesday saw the port side done. No pictures of the set up, but I took some shots of the extender for the syringe and the paper clip on a stick. It was a real bitch of a process. Now that it's done, there are air bubbles and places where the fillet gaps under the glass...not too many. Today I was able to laminate the starboard half of the cockpit coaming and install the spacer pieces in both hatches. Spacer pieces snapped during the install, but the epoxy was tacky enough that the pieces fit and stayed in place during the install. There's much
touch up filling to do on the hatches' spacer pieces-and the hatch lips to install yet. There are areas in the laminate of the coaming that need filling too. Started out by sawing the first lamination into 3 sections, the second into 2, and the third I left whole. Held it together with bamboo skewers posted by each joint and at the ends where they lined up on the center of the boat. I didn't notice much deck distortion...if any. The middle lamination had glue on both sides. Taped off the area with packing tape, so I can remove it for sanding the edges. Lots of gobs ran out the sides under the clamping pressure-hope the joint isn't starved. Found out that I made a carlin from the wrong station mould-did #8 and #5!!! I was totally bummed-found that other strip of 1/8" ash from Ripple and it was enough to make a carlin from station #6
after all. I'll update the photo log. I used a bamboo skewer to help keep the laminates from sliding around here too. Ended up using every clamp in the shop-hatches' spacer pieces, station #6 carlin and the coaming. Finished the session by stripping station #4 and # 9 for bulkheads-used long strips to try to be consistant with color and grain. #4 is darker in the middle and lighter away from center, #9 is opposite. I didn't want to get too elaborate on the stripping pattern, but I didn't want to piece scrap strips together and have a guilt trip either. I'll save that for paddles if I need 'em...next up; port cockpit coaming half, and hatch lips for the hatches-maybe a little fairing of the gobs...we'll see. I also need to make paddles, and the netting...and install foot braces, and glass the bulkheads, and install them, and figure out a back rest or lumbar support...and the weather is supposed to get cooler again...AHHHH!

Mike, I think you get the picture. Go for it Man! Good to vent with you!
Bill

: William!

: You really know this haiku stuff! Awesome.

: Post pics please please please
: fillet sanding finishing
: your kayak buds say

: Mike

Messages In This Thread

Strip: Bad Kayak Haiku, Vol 2, No 1
mike loriz -- 11/3/2003, 8:19 pm
Re: Kayak Haiku
Mike Scarborough -- 11/4/2003, 5:43 pm
Re: Kayak Haiku
mike loriz -- 11/4/2003, 8:14 pm
Re: Kayak Haiku
Peter -- 11/4/2003, 8:49 pm
that's a good one *NM*
Larry -- 11/4/2003, 9:47 pm
Re: Kayak Haiku - BRAVO! *NM* *NM*
Peter -- 11/4/2003, 6:57 pm
Re: Strip: Bad Kayak Haiku, Vol 2, No 1
Jim Pace -- 11/4/2003, 4:28 pm
Re: Strip: Bad Kayak Haiku, Vol 2, No 1
mike loriz -- 11/4/2003, 8:10 pm
Re: Strip: Bad Kayak Haiku, Vol 2, No 1
Peter -- 11/4/2003, 4:12 pm
Re: Strip: Bad Kayak Haiku, Vol 2, No 1
mike loriz -- 11/4/2003, 8:05 pm
one haikuva good kayak
mike allen -- 11/4/2003, 3:40 am
shoulda
mike allen -- 11/4/2003, 11:36 am
Re: shoulda
mike loriz -- 11/4/2003, 8:02 pm
See Posting Above :) *NM*
Robert N Pruden -- 11/3/2003, 11:01 pm
A+++++
Malcolm Schweizer -- 11/3/2003, 10:18 pm
Re: A+++++
mike loriz -- 11/3/2003, 10:27 pm
Re: Strip: Bad Kayak Haiku, Vol 2, No 1
Glen Smith -- 11/3/2003, 9:13 pm
Re: Strip: Bad Kayak Haiku, Vol 2, No 1
mike loriz -- 11/3/2003, 10:22 pm
Re: Strip: Bad Kayak Haiku, Vol 2, No 1
William F. Cruz -- 11/3/2003, 9:05 pm
Re: Strip: Bad Kayak Haiku, Vol 2, No 1
mike loriz -- 11/3/2003, 10:16 pm
Re: Strip: Bad Kayak Haiku, Vol 2, No 1
William F. Cruz -- 11/4/2003, 4:25 am