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Re: one last time
By:Mike Scarborough
Date: 12/10/2003, 1:37 pm
In Response To: one last time (mike allen)

I think I see your rational for bringing the depth into play. If I understand, you are saying that for any rocker value that we compute there are infinitely many keel profiles that fit the number, but if we include the depth of the keel below some agreed on waterline we get a much better idea of the shape of the keel.

: don't agree, just opinion: i think the rocker should give an idea of what the
: curvature of the bottom is. if you use 2 horizontal measurments you have
: no idea of what the bottom looks like. take your boat for example and from
: the side proportionally increase the depth only over the whole yak and
: reduce its lenght. for the same load you could end up with the same
: figures with radically different side profiles of the bottom.

: the depth has to be part of the measurement not just the proportionally of
: where it lands.

: for me, any length is semi-ok. the 50% waterline or where 50% of the depth is
: above or below - don't care, but then that DEPTH measurment must be
: included.

: so in your example 16' - 1.5' -1' = 13.5' = 162"
: and depth is 2.5"

: so just divide to get proportion and curvature of 2.5"/162" (this
: is ok, but then)
: take percent for ease of understanding: 2.5"/16" x 100 = 1.5%
: rocker

: now you can draw this profile out for any legth size vessel to compare.

: like before i personally like the 50% of the waterline length as then you
: know you are away significantly from any stern or bow idiosycracies. a
: good example of this indiosycratic behaviour is the dropped skeg
: protruberance on many skin on frames. the 50% depth then gets pushed back,
: but the question is whether or not you/we wish this to affect the rocker
: measurement(good can of worms)

Messages In This Thread

Other: Rocker Revisited
Mike Scarborough -- 12/10/2003, 10:02 am
Re: Other: Rocker Revisited *LINK* *Pic*
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 12/10/2003, 2:00 pm
Re: Other: Rocker Revisited
Paul Jacob -- 12/11/2003, 3:52 pm
Re: Other: Rocker Revisited
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 12/11/2003, 4:50 pm
Re: Other: Rocker Revisited
Mike Scarborough -- 12/10/2003, 6:16 pm
Re: Other: Rocker Revisited
mike allen -- 12/10/2003, 2:32 pm
Re: Other: Rocker Revisited
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 12/10/2003, 3:02 pm
Re: Other: Rocker Revisited
mike allen -- 12/10/2003, 4:28 pm
one last time
mike allen -- 12/10/2003, 12:28 pm
Keeping it simple
Mike Scarborough -- 12/11/2003, 11:11 am
Re: Keeping it simple and go for it!
mike allen -- 12/11/2003, 11:54 am
Re: Keeping it simple and defining IT!
Jay Doorly -- 12/11/2003, 1:33 pm
Re: Keeping it simple and defining IT!
mike allen -- 12/11/2003, 1:57 pm
rocker coefficient
mike allen -- 12/11/2003, 3:47 pm
rocker coefficient explained
mike allen -- 12/11/2003, 4:05 pm
Re: one last time
Mike Scarborough -- 12/10/2003, 1:37 pm
deep rocker
mike allen -- 12/10/2003, 2:22 pm