Date: 3/5/2008, 11:19 pm
Tommy, are you any relation to Kyle.
: "Greenland paddle is more efficient"
: "Greenland paddle is easier on your body"
: Really, let's take a look: 1 "More efficient" ?
: There is a Latin term used in the field of logical reasoning "reductio
: ad absurdum".
: All English speakers will intuitively understand its meaning.
: "Reduction to absurdity" applied to greenland paddle: since the low
: profile of greenland paddle is what makes it "more efficient" ,
: the ultimate greenland paddle will be a round stick.
: Round stick produces very little resistance hence must be uber-king of
: greenland paddling.
: The fact that round stick will do little to move the boat forward and a lot
: to produce vortex as it moves through the water
: greenland paddle proponents will conveniently skip.
: 2. "Easier on your body" ?
: Yes, since it produces less resistance, our muscles do not work as hard.
: What about the frequency and total stroke count? It takes more 'greenland
: strokes' to move the boat a given distance.
: Our bodies do have a hard lifetime limit how many times we can bend our knees
: or swing our arms. Greenland paddle uses up that limit faster.
: Muscles are very adaptable and resistant to wear and tear. The tendons and
: joins are a different story.
: Greenland paddles go easy on the 'sturdy' subsystem (muscles) and hard on the
: vulnerable ones.
: If large-blade paddle feels too hard to pull through the water, there is
: simple solution: Apply less force.
: You will be easier on your body yet still efficiently move the boat, not stir
: the water.
: So why there are armies of die-hard greenland paddle users and proponents?
: Well, greenland paddle has it's (albeit narrow) niche: when the wind really
: blows hard, or there are no materials to make larger blade,
: greenland paddle will do.
: Still, the large blade "euro" (why it is called this) paddle
: evolved for a good reason - most of the time and for most people it is
: superior to greenland stick.
: Ah, but it's so pleasant to believe in the "wisdom of thousands-year old
: traditions", the undiscovered but charmingly green lands of fuzzy
: logic, the thousands of inhabited planets beyond our solar system, the
: bigfoots roaming mountains on the horizon, large monsters swimming in
: Scottish lakes, Masonic lodges ruling the capital markets,
: Elders of the Zion setting fiscal policy and spooky action at a distance
: entangling elementary particles.
: In fact, to the contrary to what Ray Kurzweil writes in the "Singularity
: is Near", the un-rational and non-logical is what truly
: differentiates humans from, well.. the non-kayaking population.
Messages In This Thread
- Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Tommy -- 3/4/2008, 12:16 pm- Re: Myths keep dreams alive part 1.1
Bryan Hansel -- 3/7/2008, 8:22 pm- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Greg H -- 3/7/2008, 9:41 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Acors -- 3/6/2008, 10:00 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Bryan Hansel -- 3/6/2008, 9:22 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Bill Hamm -- 3/6/2008, 9:58 am
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Donovan -- 3/5/2008, 11:19 pm- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 3/10/2008, 9:02 am- Nah, can't be...
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 3/10/2008, 9:03 am
- Nah, can't be...
- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
John D. -- 3/5/2008, 3:09 pm- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
John Monroe -- 3/6/2008, 7:23 am
- Re: Other: Newsflash for Tommy
Kris Buttermore -- 3/5/2008, 11:59 am- Re: Other: Newsflash for Tommy
Bill Hamm -- 3/6/2008, 12:52 am- Re: Other: Newsflash for Tommy
Kris Buttermore -- 3/6/2008, 2:14 am- Re: Other: Newsflash for Tommy
Bill Hamm -- 3/6/2008, 9:55 am
- Re: Other: Newsflash for Tommy
- Re: Other: Newsflash for Tommy
- Re: Skip the BS, Here's A Question
Mike Scarborough -- 3/5/2008, 9:50 am- Maybe Here's An Answer
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/7/2008, 4:50 pm- Re: Antique paddles
Mike Scarborough -- 3/8/2008, 9:25 am
- Re: Skip the BS, Here's A Question *Pic*
Aaron H -- 3/5/2008, 1:18 pm- Also look at Umiak oars.
Kris Buttermore -- 3/5/2008, 11:31 pm- Re: Also look at Umiak oars.
Mike Scarborough -- 3/6/2008, 8:54 am- Re: Also look at Umiak oars.
Mike Savage -- 3/6/2008, 10:35 am- Re: If I Read You Right
Mike Scarborough -- 3/6/2008, 11:46 am- Re: If I Read You Right
Mike Savage -- 3/6/2008, 2:32 pm
- Re: If I Read You Right
- Re: If I Read You Right
- Re: Also look at Umiak oars.
- Re: Also look at Umiak oars.
- Re: Antique paddles
- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 3/5/2008, 5:35 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Bill Hamm -- 3/6/2008, 12:46 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 3/6/2008, 1:07 pm- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Bill Hamm -- 3/6/2008, 4:03 pm- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1 *Pic*
Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 3/7/2008, 10:47 am- New t-shirt design for determined paddler! *NM*
Charles Leach -- 3/8/2008, 8:08 am- Re: New t-shirt design for determined paddler! *Pic*
Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 3/8/2008, 1:12 pm- Re: New t-shirt design for determined paddler!
Bill Hamm -- 3/9/2008, 1:48 am- New Paddling Group: The Dustbin Lid Paddlers
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 3/10/2008, 8:57 am
- Re: New t-shirt design for determined paddler!
Mike Scarborough -- 3/8/2008, 1:56 pm- Re: New t-shirt design for determined paddler!
Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 3/11/2008, 7:11 am
- New Paddling Group: The Dustbin Lid Paddlers
- Re: Seconded *NM*
Mike Scarborough -- 3/8/2008, 9:13 am - Re: New t-shirt design for determined paddler!
- Re: New t-shirt design for determined paddler! *Pic*
- New t-shirt design for determined paddler! *NM*
- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1 *Pic*
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Todd Sullivan------WebKitFormBoundaryrBPL64w206cse -- 3/5/2008, 8:16 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1 *Pic*
Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 3/7/2008, 11:50 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Bill Hamm -- 3/7/2008, 5:56 pm
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Mike Savage -- 3/5/2008, 8:33 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Etienne Muller - Ireland -- 3/5/2008, 9:14 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Robert N Pruden -- 3/5/2008, 7:26 pm- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Mike Savage -- 3/5/2008, 11:52 am - Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
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Alex Ferguson -- 3/5/2008, 3:51 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Chris Ostlind -- 3/5/2008, 8:33 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
John Monroe -- 3/6/2008, 6:55 am- Wow! That's what I get for not being online much..
Robert N Pruden -- 3/5/2008, 7:23 pm - Wow! That's what I get for not being online much..
- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Scott Shurlow -- 3/5/2008, 6:46 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Bill Hamm -- 3/5/2008, 4:51 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Alex Ferguson -- 3/6/2008, 5:28 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
John D. -- 3/5/2008, 7:45 pm- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Alex Ferguson -- 3/6/2008, 5:35 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Bill Hamm -- 3/6/2008, 12:44 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
John D. -- 3/6/2008, 4:41 pm- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Mike Savage -- 3/6/2008, 5:54 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Bill Hamm -- 3/6/2008, 9:50 am
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Kris Buttermore -- 3/6/2008, 2:04 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Bill Hamm -- 3/9/2008, 7:53 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Bill Hamm -- 3/9/2008, 7:51 am- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Kris Buttermore -- 3/11/2008, 11:10 pm
- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
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- so when is that singularity?
LeeG -- 3/5/2008, 1:14 am- Uh, Tommy?
Greg Fojtik -- 3/4/2008, 10:55 pm- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/4/2008, 9:53 pm- Gee. I can't wait for part II *NM*
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/4/2008, 9:38 pm- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
Mike Savage -- 3/4/2008, 5:33 pm- Classic Cabin Fever! *NM*
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/4/2008, 4:44 pm- Someone pee in your cornflakes this morning?? *NM*
Kudzu -- 3/4/2008, 1:49 pm- Ad hominem dressed in reductio clothing
Pozamua -- 3/4/2008, 1:37 pm- Re: Ad hominem dressed in reductio clothing
Robert N Pruden -- 3/5/2008, 7:16 pm- Re: Ad hominem dressed in reductio clothing
Bryan Hansel -- 3/6/2008, 9:25 am- Re: Ad hominem dressed in reductio clothing
Robert N Pruden -- 3/6/2008, 6:25 pm
- Re: Ad hominem dressed in reductio clothing
- Incorrect interpretation of intent
Tommy -- 3/4/2008, 3:40 pm- It seems you intended to be a jerk
Brian Nystrom -- 3/5/2008, 8:55 am- Re: Incorrect interpretation of intent
LeeG -- 3/5/2008, 1:17 am- Re: Incorrect interpretation of intent
Pozamua -- 3/4/2008, 4:18 pm - Re: Incorrect interpretation of intent
- Re: Ad hominem dressed in reductio clothing
- Re: Other: Myths keep dreams alive part 1
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