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Sanding is Skill Free?
By:Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks
Date: 3/25/2008, 5:59 pm
In Response To: Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest! (Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K)

: These are skills that are developed over time. How is a novice to learn?
: These things are clear to the experienced builder.

I guess what I don't follow is your whole premise suggests that sanding is a skill-free operation.

You say planes are bad because they take skill that new builders don't have yet. This creates the implication that sanding is something everyone already knows how to do. Do you really believe sanding takes no skill or practice?

Ok, sanding is not brain surgery but it does take practice before you are good at it. Without some real care and attention and knowledge of what to look out for, you can do serious damage to a boat with 60 grit sandpaper and a random orbital sander. In other words, sanding is a skill that requires practice and experience.

It is obvious that your techniques produce good results. But your argument that your method is better because the other methods take skill that beginners don't have just doesn't make sense. Your technique requires skills that most beginners do not have, so by your own criteria, your techniques also come up lacking.

It is one of the joys of building a boat that it requires skills. For many builders, it is precisely the opportunity to learn new skills that draws them to the project in the first place. For many of us, it is the continuing improvement of our skills that keeps each new building project interesting.

True skill at any task only really comes by learning how to correct, overcome and eventually avoid mistakes. I advocate using a plane primarily in the context of fixing mistakes made in previous steps. I guess it would be better if it were possible to teach strip-building in a way that first time builders never made mistakes, but that requires more skill than I have and I really don't think you have succeeded yet.

Messages In This Thread

Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/21/2008, 1:51 pm
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Acors -- 3/25/2008, 3:14 am
Re: Tools: Waterboarding and ....
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/25/2008, 2:24 pm
Re: Tools: Waterboarding and ....
Bill Hamm -- 3/26/2008, 1:14 am
Re: Tools: Waterboarding and ....
Mike Bielski -- 3/25/2008, 6:25 pm
Re: Tools: Waterboarding and ....
Glen Smith -- 3/25/2008, 4:05 pm
Re: Tools: Waterboarding and ....
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/25/2008, 5:42 pm
Re: Tools: Waterboarding and ....
PatrickC -- 4/1/2008, 10:01 am
Re: Tools: Waterboarding and ....
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 4/2/2008, 7:33 pm
:)
kelly t -- 4/2/2008, 9:15 pm
Re: :) :) :) (:
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 4/3/2008, 8:01 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Mike Bielski -- 3/25/2008, 11:22 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Todd Sullivan -- 3/25/2008, 9:32 pm
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!------WebKi
Jay Babina------WebKitFormBoundaryAF6vd4C7eld+PENR -- 3/25/2008, 8:51 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Mike Bielski -- 3/23/2008, 12:35 pm
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Bill Hamm -- 3/24/2008, 1:33 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 3/24/2008, 11:40 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/24/2008, 8:29 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Bill Hamm -- 3/25/2008, 1:22 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/25/2008, 2:41 pm
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Mike Bielski -- 3/25/2008, 6:06 pm
Sanding is Skill Free?
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 3/25/2008, 5:59 pm
Re: Sanding is Skill Free?
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/25/2008, 10:54 pm
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Mike Savage -- 3/24/2008, 10:01 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/23/2008, 5:47 pm
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/23/2008, 4:03 pm
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Mike Savage -- 3/23/2008, 12:57 pm
Glue
Todd Sullivan -- 3/23/2008, 9:06 pm
Re: Glue
Mike Bielski -- 3/24/2008, 12:06 pm
Re: Glue
Todd Sullivan -- 3/24/2008, 9:48 pm
Re: Glue------WebKitFormBoundaryVBozkArD+XRe82MN
Mike Bielski------WebKitFormBoundaryVBozkArD+XRe82 -- 3/25/2008, 11:15 am
Re: Glue
Bill Hamm -- 3/25/2008, 1:18 am
Re: Glue *Pic*
Etienne Muller -- 3/24/2008, 11:21 am
Re: Glue
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 3/24/2008, 11:26 am
Re: No access...
Björn Thomasson -- 3/25/2008, 12:30 pm
Re: No access... *LINK*
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 3/25/2008, 1:18 pm
Re: No access...
Björn Thomasson -- 3/26/2008, 4:21 pm
Re: No access... *LINK*
Glen Smith -- 3/25/2008, 12:48 pm
Re: Glue
Etienne Muller -- 3/24/2008, 11:38 am
Re: Glue
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/24/2008, 12:48 pm
Re: Glue
Etienne Muller -- 3/24/2008, 2:02 pm
Re: Glue
Mike Savage -- 3/24/2008, 9:16 pm
Re: Glue------WebKitFormBoundaryAJKY9jM9qs+BHftt
Dan Caouette (CSFW)------WebKitFormBoundaryAJKY9jM -- 3/24/2008, 11:47 am
Re: Glue
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/24/2008, 8:34 am
Re: Glue
Mike Savage -- 3/24/2008, 6:47 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
C.W. -- 3/22/2008, 8:51 pm
Re: Stung,
Paul Sylvester -- 3/23/2008, 7:00 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest! *NM*
C.W. -- 3/22/2008, 8:26 pm
Still waiting for Spring to come?
Mike Scarborough -- 3/22/2008, 9:22 am
Re: Still waiting for Spring to come?
Etienne Muller -- 3/23/2008, 7:44 am
Re: Still waiting for Spring to come?
Doug Smith -- 3/22/2008, 3:38 pm
Re: Good Advice *LINK*
Pawistik -- 3/22/2008, 12:40 pm
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/21/2008, 2:13 pm
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Todd Sullivan -- 3/21/2008, 7:10 pm
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Jay Babina -- 3/23/2008, 7:41 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest! *NM* *LINK*
Barry -- 3/29/2008, 6:54 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Todd Sullivan -- 3/23/2008, 10:32 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Mike Savage -- 3/23/2008, 7:59 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Etienne Muller -- 3/23/2008, 7:29 am
Re: Tools: I'll wack the hornet's nest!
Todd Sullivan -- 3/23/2008, 9:15 pm