Date: 3/27/2008, 9:49 pm
touche'
: Next we weill be discussing animal rights, and the need to produce items with
: machine power instead of using animal labor.
: Well, I still eat eggs, and those are produced by cloistered, sexually
: deprived females, (around the world) for the price of chicken feed.
: Face it. It is not low priced labor which is the issue. Certainly it is not
: the availability of low priced items. Everyone loves a bargain. Instead,
: it is the fear that a person might have to alter their lifestyle by taking
: a cut in wages to meet competition from places (or populations) with lower
: employee salaries.
: Economics change all the time. At one time China and Egypt were the major
: cultures on this planet, and didn't know the other existed. At that time
: the western hemisphere was another unknown part of the world. Now we have
: global connectivity, and tough as it is going to be, there is a developing
: global economy which it will be our burden to hammer into shape.
: Of course the easy way to do this would be to have a big war, and let the
: winner decide who got what. In the past we've done things this way.
: Unfortunately, the process starts a series of more wars.
: Hopefully, this time we'll get it a bit better, and not have a war. It should
: be possible for a peaceful change in global economics. One way to do this
: is to embrace the change. And work to make it happen.
: A couple of years ago this board had a visitor from Vietnam who was
: interested in setting up a workshop for boatbuilders. It was to be a
: work/training deal where people would learn new trades. The poster was
: interested in strip-built boats. Last summer, while traveling through the
: southeast, I stopped and talked with a man who had two strip-built kayaks
: on top of his car. He said tehy were built in Vietnam, and that he had a
: hundred of them. He was traveling around trying to sell them.
: Unfortunately he had no details on what designs they were. Also
: unfortunately, I've misplaced his business card.
: Are we now to worry about imports of strip-built kayaks from Vietnam? Is this
: touching too close to home? I don't think so. The economy is incredibly
: complicated. There is room for both high-priced and low-priced items to
: co-exist. Surprisingly, the addition of lower-priced items into an economy
: can stimulate the demand for higher-priced items. Look at wristwatches
: over tha past 75 years. Timex and Swatch haven't knocked Rolex out of
: business.
: The website that Duane links to has a message of boycotting Chinese-made
: merchandise. That is unfortunate. It smacks of racism. If the goal is to
: help the underpaid workers, or to keep highly paid workers from taking
: wage cuts, then it probably is counterproductive, too.
: Years ago my mother told me to clean the plate when I ate dinner, because
: there were starving people in China, and I shouldn't waste food. Well, if
: more of those Chinese can get jobs making kayaks, then my blessings on
: them. Now I can feel good about pushing away from the table a bit earlier,
: and not letting America's abundance go to my waist.
: (Jumping off the soapbox--It's probably filled with soap made in Brazil)
: PGJ
Messages In This Thread
- Other: Kayaks Made in China *LINK*
Duane Strosaker -- 3/22/2008, 11:50 pm- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal *LINK*
Bryan Hansel -- 3/24/2008, 7:57 pm- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Bill Hamm -- 3/25/2008, 1:04 am- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Bryan Hansel -- 3/25/2008, 9:11 am- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Bill Hamm -- 3/26/2008, 12:45 am- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Bryan Hansel -- 3/26/2008, 8:08 am- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Bill Hamm -- 3/27/2008, 7:47 am- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Mike Savage -- 3/27/2008, 8:49 am- Kayaks/'cycles made in China
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/27/2008, 7:30 pm- Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
Mike Savage -- 3/28/2008, 11:24 am- Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
Bill Hamm -- 3/28/2008, 10:55 am- Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
Mike Savage -- 3/28/2008, 11:28 am- Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
Bill Hamm -- 3/28/2008, 5:40 pm- Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
Mike Savage -- 3/28/2008, 10:27 pm
- Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
- Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
- Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
Bill Hamm -- 3/27/2008, 4:18 pm - Re: Kayaks/'cycles made in China
- Kayaks/'cycles made in China
- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
- Sad... *NM*
Dan Caouette (CSFW) -- 3/24/2008, 9:39 am- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Chris Ostlind -- 3/24/2008, 7:11 am- Re: selling to China
Brad -- 3/25/2008, 8:52 pm- Re: selling to China
Chris Ostlind -- 3/25/2008, 9:10 pm- Re: selling to China
Mike Savage -- 3/26/2008, 6:39 am- Re: selling to China
Chris Ostlind -- 3/26/2008, 9:50 am
- Re: selling to China
- Re: selling to China
- China is just people
Jay Babina -- 3/25/2008, 12:39 pm- Re: China is just people
Rob W -- 3/25/2008, 6:01 pm- Re: China is just people
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/25/2008, 2:46 pm - Re: China is just people
- Are we smarter then a monkey?
John Monroe -- 3/25/2008, 3:34 am- Re: Are we smarter then a monkey?
Bill Hamm -- 3/26/2008, 12:39 am- Re: Are we smarter then a monkey?
John Monroe -- 3/26/2008, 3:48 am
- Re: Are we smarter then a monkey?
- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Robert N Pruden -- 3/24/2008, 8:37 pm- I still eat eggs
Paul G. Jacobson -- 3/27/2008, 9:33 pm- Re: I still eat eggs
Bill Hamm -- 3/28/2008, 10:53 am- Re: I still eat eggs
watiger -- 3/28/2008, 11:56 am- Re: I still eat eggs
Bill Hamm -- 3/28/2008, 5:39 pm
- Re: I still eat eggs
- Re: I still eat eggs
charlie r -- 3/27/2008, 9:49 pm - Re: I still eat eggs
- Re: I still eat eggs
- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Rob Macks / Laughing Loon CC&K -- 3/24/2008, 11:55 am- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Etienne Muller -- 3/24/2008, 1:58 pm
- Re: selling to China
- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Bill Hamm -- 3/24/2008, 12:47 am- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Mike Savage -- 3/23/2008, 8:11 am- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Andy Waddington -- 3/26/2008, 11:25 am- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Kim -- 3/23/2008, 8:49 am- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
Kim -- 3/23/2008, 12:22 pm- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China *NM*
Mike Savage -- 3/23/2008, 12:35 pm
- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China *NM*
- Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China
- Link doesn't work for me! *NM*
Glen Smith -- 3/23/2008, 2:00 am - Re: Other: Kayaks Made in China - Rebuttal
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