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Re: Skin-on-Frame: foot braces
By:Brian Scaborough
Date: 7/2/2009, 2:16 pm
In Response To: Skin-on-Frame: foot braces (bueller)

Only useful for your next kayak: move station 3 for/aft as necessary.

On a Greenland style kayak, feet don't usually matter much, as the fit of the tops of the thighs, just behind the kneecap, to the underside of the masik deck beam (or Ajaaq Seeqqortarfik, a deck beam just in front of the masik) is the primary attachment point to the kayak. The masik or seeqqortarfik is analogous to station 4 in a Yost designed boat. If you have your knees locked in reasonably well, the friction of your butt gives you plenty of purchase for paddling. Pushing too hard with the feet against foot pegs serves mostly to tire you out as you press your back into the coaming or back band. Based on a thread of better paddlers than me, the consensus was that, unless your knees are very bent, and you use tons of torso rotation, as racers do in a surf ski, pushing against foot pegs does not materially contribute to forward efficiency.

Anyhoo, on your next kayak, try what I did: I sat with my feet in front of me, with feet in a neutral forward position up against the wall. I balanced a 12"x2"x4" scrap behind my kneecaps, and measured the distance. It turns out, this measurement for me was 2" shorter than the plan distances from section 3 to section 4. I moved section 3 back 2", and shimmed the gunwales and chines to keep the curves fair. If you had to move forward, you could rasp the sections appropriately to make some more room. OR... you could write to Tom Yost, because he posted once that he'd prepare new offsets for section 3 based on fore/aft movement. Um, I guess this doesn't work for a Yost folder, you'd need new offsets to cut the HDPE section.

But, I'm sure you have some good ideas from some of the other pictures on this thread how to handle what you have, be it wood or folder. Wood would definitely be easier, especially if your legs are too short for station 3. If your legs are too long, you're going to have to point your toes through the hole in station 3 anyway, which is how I do it when I scootch forward in the cockpit to more easily do layback rolls.

Brian

: I am ready to skin a yost(sea rider). There dosnt seam to be room for foot
: braces at least not for my feet. Maybe my wifes but I dont see where to
: put them. Or can I go with out on this narrow a kayak?

Messages In This Thread

Skin-on-Frame: foot braces
bueller -- 6/30/2009, 8:44 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: foot braces
Brian Scaborough -- 7/2/2009, 2:16 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: foot braces
Sean -- 7/1/2009, 9:56 am
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Dan Mouw -- 7/2/2009, 9:49 am
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Aaron H -- 7/2/2009, 10:33 am
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bueller -- 7/1/2009, 7:27 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: foot braces
Bill Hamm -- 7/2/2009, 11:22 am
Simple *Pic*
Kudzu -- 7/1/2009, 8:11 am
Re: Simple *Pic*
Timt -- 7/2/2009, 10:10 pm
Re: Simple - same here
Doug S -- 7/1/2009, 9:12 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: foot braces *LINK* *Pic*
Paul Montgomery -- 7/1/2009, 7:39 am
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Bill Hamm -- 7/1/2009, 1:38 am
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Dave Gentry -- 7/1/2009, 12:25 am
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bueller -- 6/30/2009, 8:47 pm