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Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
By:brian scarborough
Date: 5/20/2010, 9:46 pm
In Response To: Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g (Justin)

I think the Dura Tuff has been a fine coating. I know many other people who are far better boat builders than me, and they are happy with it also.

I was happy that I could get 5 coats on in a day with DT. However, it is very toxic, and you will need lots of ventilation (do it outside, let it dry outside) and a *very* good organic respirator. I smelled it through my respirator, and I had a headache, which means my respirator is not very good.

You had said previously that cost was a major factor for you. I believe the Zar varnish will cost less than Dura Tuff. Last I saw, DT was about $25.00 per quart, might be more now. (Yep, $27.95/qt now. www.creative-wholesale.com) There are many satisfied Zar users.

In my opinion, based on the opinions of others I am familiar with, I would say the best coating for nylon is Coelan. However, Coelan is also the most expensive that I know of. It was designed to have something like a 300% elasticity, and therefore, it's elasticity is matched well with the nylon's elasticity. Again, don't confuse elasticity (stretch) with flexibility (bend.)

I believe you could paint your nylon skin with just about any oil based paint, even Rustoleum enamel, and get serviceable results. Heck, if the coating is bad, but you love the boat, just re-skin with something else. Or, better yet, build a whole new boat :)

Brian

: Hmmm... Would you consider the lack of elasticity a show stopper,
: or just something to be aware of?
: I really liked what some people said about Dura Tuffs abrasion
: resistance (dragging a kayak across pavement without a scratch),
: is there something else out there I should be looking at? I know
: that there are almost as many kayak coatings as there are
: kayaks, but there have to be a handfull of products that just
: perform way better than the others...

: Thanks,
: Justin

Messages In This Thread

Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any good?
Justin -- 5/18/2010, 1:03 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Michael -- 5/20/2010, 12:14 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Justin -- 5/20/2010, 1:59 pm
PPS: *PIC*
Michael -- 5/20/2010, 12:51 pm
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Michael -- 5/20/2010, 12:53 pm
PS:
Michael -- 5/20/2010, 12:30 pm
My two cents *PIC*
Dave Gentry -- 5/19/2010, 9:54 am
Re: My two cents
graybeard -- 5/19/2010, 1:56 pm
Re: My two cents
Mike Bielski -- 5/19/2010, 4:19 pm
Re: My two cents
graybeard -- 5/20/2010, 2:23 pm
Addendum
Dave Gentry -- 5/19/2010, 10:08 am
Re: Addendum
Kudzu -- 5/19/2010, 3:16 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Malcolm Schweizer -- 5/19/2010, 2:02 am
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Kudzu -- 5/18/2010, 9:41 pm
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Malcolm Schweizer -- 5/20/2010, 8:55 am
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Charlie -- 5/18/2010, 9:04 pm
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wwfloyd -- 5/18/2010, 4:12 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Justin -- 5/18/2010, 7:10 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Brian Scarborough -- 5/19/2010, 9:35 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Mike Hanks -- 5/21/2010, 11:52 am
Re: PU?
Doug S -- 5/21/2010, 2:11 pm
Re: PU?
Mike Hanks -- 5/21/2010, 3:29 pm
Re: PU?
Doug S -- 5/21/2010, 10:56 pm
Re: PU?
Mike Hanks -- 5/22/2010, 1:13 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Bill Hamm -- 5/20/2010, 12:27 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Justin -- 5/20/2010, 10:15 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Mike Savage -- 5/20/2010, 5:46 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Justin -- 5/20/2010, 8:05 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Mike Savage -- 5/21/2010, 5:27 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Bill Hamm -- 5/21/2010, 6:01 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Bill Hamm -- 5/21/2010, 12:47 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Brian Scarborough -- 5/20/2010, 7:34 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Bill Hamm -- 5/21/2010, 12:42 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
brian scarborough -- 5/21/2010, 7:08 am
Warning - Thread drift
Dave Gentry -- 5/20/2010, 12:11 am
Re: Warning - Thread drift
Bill Hamm -- 5/20/2010, 12:30 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Bill Hamm -- 5/19/2010, 12:25 am
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wwfloyd -- 5/18/2010, 11:29 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Justin -- 5/19/2010, 1:38 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
graybeard -- 5/19/2010, 2:02 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
wwfloyd -- 5/18/2010, 8:39 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Justin -- 5/19/2010, 12:55 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Dave Gentry -- 5/19/2010, 1:48 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Dave Gentry -- 5/19/2010, 9:27 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Bill Hamm -- 5/20/2010, 12:22 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Bill Hamm -- 5/20/2010, 1:43 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Brian Scarborough -- 5/20/2010, 7:38 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Bill Hamm -- 5/21/2010, 12:36 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Justin -- 5/20/2010, 10:12 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Brian Scarborough -- 5/20/2010, 12:15 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Justin -- 5/20/2010, 2:06 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
brian scarborough -- 5/20/2010, 9:46 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Are thewoodshop.com plans any g
Kurt Maurer -- 5/18/2010, 7:43 pm