And, I meant to note that the safety twist pliers don't have the necessary control to snug a joint up just right, so you use regular pliers there. And, on the initial twist, you only need a couple of twists on the wire, not 6 or eight that the twist pliers are designed for.

: Before my first S&G, I bought a pair. Tried 'em. Didn't use
: 'em. Twisting initially by hand, and tightening later with
: regular pliers is easy. The safety twist pliers might work
: better with lighter gauge wire, but that's of no help. Save your
: money.