: My question is now you have the backband installed? Sounds like
: what you have isn't working and maybe you just need to work on
: the install.

hey everyone thanks for the replies,

Hi Jeff Yes My backband is held up with Bungies but never seems to stay in place, ive tried a bunch of different methods, one problem is I need it kind of aft to give me room to get in boat, straps dont work well in place , so I cant loosen and then tighten when I get in boat.

Bill very Interesting point to ponder! traditional boats dont have backbands/seats!!, as matter of fact I have to think but most (only a handfull) of the sof boats that Ive persanally seen didnt have backbands for that matter. I saw a guy in Cape Cod last year in a Baidarka style SOF and yes it had No seat !!

no backband would give me more room to enter/Exit boat, and from what I know but dont practice all the time proper paddling teqniuque requires a forward motion that results in your back not contacting anything. HMM worth a try only 2 screws to remove.

one thing though , in practice native paddlers from a young age were in boats for many hours a day thus developed the muscle groups /posture needed to stay comfortable for extended period of times!! similar to buddists monks that can sit cross legged for 8 hours + without flinching.

but Im a 2 -3 day a week paddler (somtimes none a week) , (average paddle time is 2.5 -3hour) while paddling I can see not having a backband but how does one stay comfortable when not moving esp on 4-5 hour trips when having lunch, bird watching ... ?? minicell padding glued to coaming?? also if not using a backband are foot supports obsolete , I would think so ???

last but not least if not using a backband whats the method for ROLLING /BRACING?? press back right against coaming?? better layback I suppose but easier to slide out of boat?? Native paddlers seem to have no problem.

more insight needed. My inquiring mind wants to know

many thanks

"John"