: Wet (720lbs) or dry (650lbs), the ST1300 is still in the weight and
: size range of the other bikes in the sport touring category,
: and certainly not , to quote you,.... "ST1300 is WAY too heavy
: to be a reasonable sport tourer, it's a slightly
: downsized Goldwing."
: Since the Goldwing is 900 lbs wet and the ST 1300 is 720 lbs wet,
: then it should be obvious that
: the ST 1300 is not by any stretch of the imagination a slightly
: downsized Goldwing .
: I live at 9,000ft in the Rocky Mountains and most of my riding is
: done there. My ST 1100, FJR, Concours and even
: my old Goldwing GL-1200 required no horsing around in the
: mountains, and neither does the ST 1300. I've ridden with
: riders on ST 1300's on fast / twisty mountain roads and they held
: their own .
: Come out for a visit this summer, and we'll ride some of the best
: twisties you'll ever see.
: Your V-Strom 650 will do ok, albeit down a bit on power due to the
: altitude.
: My Aprila SL-1000R and a V-Strom 1000 at 10,000ft. Those extra
: 350cc's come in handly at this altitude.
Tom, we obviously have a difference of opinion for the ideal weight of sport tourers, that's ok too. I live at a bit over 700 ft. above sea level and most of my riding is done here. Having an extra couple hundreds of pounds of bike and it's relatively poor gas mileage every day for the chance that I'll someday ride in the Rockies is to me a poor compromise.
I'd love to come out and visit, thanks for the invite. I'm afraid that once again my family is going to suck up my vacation time, was hoping I'd have a year off, apparently not.
Bill H.
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