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Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
By:Charlie
Date: 11/15/2011, 8:36 pm

: Nothing to do with kayaks at all.. but in other ways you'd be hard
: pressed to find a better qualified bunch of guys to ask when it
: comes to gluing timber for use in wet places..

: I'm building a deck at my inlaws over the christmas break (it's
: summer here) and want to make a feature curved toe-piece for the
: corner of the deck bordering the lawn. Roughly a 6 foot radius
: through 90 degrees.

: It'll be 6 inch (150mm) H4 treated pine, it'll be in the sun, the
: rain, and almost constantly damp. The only thing it won't have
: to endure is being frozen any more severely than a frost. UV
: will only really affect one edge of each joint which 'should' be
: hairline anyway.

piece is non-structural, and will be nailed or screwed to the
: under-deck framing at regular intervals.

: My biggest concern is that the laminations will come unstuck along
: the top edges and gaps will open up. I plan to make it so that
: it springs back to a slightly larger radius than the finished
: dimension so that the inner laminations will be under
: compression once it's attached. Hopefully this will encourage it
: not to tear itself apart at the joints.

: My thoughts at the moment are to use Gorilla Glue because it's very
: strong when properly clamped during set-up, remains slightly
: flexible, and is 100% water resistant so isn't going to
: gradually come unstuck in the damp. I can't think of any benefit
: in using epoxy for this task - especially given that the timber
: is likely to be quite damp when I glue it.

: If anyone has undertaken a project like this I'd be very keen to
: hear how you went about it. I'm still trying to figure out
: whether I should make the lamination directly on the framing, or
: make a form and create the laminated section in my workshop
: before hand.

: Thanks for your thoughts!
: Simeon.

This is just a guess but I don't think there are any common glues intended to be used on wood that has more than 18% moisture content.

Then there may be a difference between our English and yours. Wood glues labeled "Water resistant" are considered marginal when compared to glues labeled "Waterproof" in our woodworking lexicon.

I am a big fan of epoxy. The other glues have been trying to challenge it for decades but hey haven't got there yet. Epoxy is waterproof. Epoxy is gap filling. Epoxy will adhere to itself which is a quality that some of the common glues don't possess.

Messages In This Thread

Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor timber?
Simeon -- 11/15/2011, 8:05 pm
Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
Charlie -- 11/15/2011, 8:36 pm
Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
Reg Lake -- 11/15/2011, 8:47 pm
Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
Bill Hamm -- 11/16/2011, 1:40 am
Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
Simeon -- 11/16/2011, 10:36 pm
Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
Bill Hamm -- 11/19/2011, 4:02 am
Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
Charlie -- 11/17/2011, 1:17 am
Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
Reg Lake -- 11/17/2011, 1:58 am
Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
David Bynoe -- 11/16/2011, 6:45 pm
Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
Bill Hamm -- 11/19/2011, 4:06 am
Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
Simeon -- 11/20/2011, 5:19 am
Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
Bill Hamm -- 11/20/2011, 9:25 am
Re: Off Topic: Which glue for laminating outdoor t
John Messinger -- 11/17/2011, 5:00 pm