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Re: Skin-on-Frame: Stiffening frame and stem treat
By:David Bynoe
Date: 5/8/2012, 12:39 am
In Response To: Re: Skin-on-Frame: Stiffening frame and stem treat (Luke hospadaruk)

: Any thoughts? Just seems like I
: don't need as much rib where the stringers are closer together.
: I might even be able to go more than 8", but I'd rather
: play it safe.

If it makes you feel any better my 11' canoe has the ribs spaced on 10 inch centres in the middle and 21 inch centres at the ends. It hasn't broken yet. http://dbynoe.blogspot.ca/search/label/Canoe

If you want to get really nervous, have a look at wooden aircraft, specifically the scantlings on the wings. When I noticed that the landing gear struts were only about an inch and half by three quarter ash I got a lot more confident about paring down the structure.

Admittedly this boat was a little extreme but it had to be to get the weight down enough. Even with that, I paddle it regularly and haven't noticed any hogging or deformation in the structure that would give me pause. I have also never noticed much flexing, even in steep white caps big enough to break over the bow. The structure gains its rigidity from the multitude of spaced out beams, tied together with the ribs and thwarts. It turns the whole thing into a truss. I can't understand what the kevlar would add that the ribs and skin aren't already doing.

As for the skining my technique was to start by pulling it tight side to side and clamp it to the gunwales, with the clamps on pull the ends lengthwise and sew the ends together as tight as you can to the stems. Then pull the skin tight over the breasthook on top, put the needle in about a half inch to an inch wider than where it is touching and reef on it. Idea was to pull the skin on top just like a kayak. You will have about 4 inches of sewn together skin on top but I personally like the look. Hope that makes some sort of sense.

Messages In This Thread

Skin-on-Frame: Stiffening frame and stem treatment
Luke Hospadaruk -- 5/7/2012, 1:38 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Stiffening frame and stem treat
Jeff Horton -- 5/7/2012, 7:28 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Stiffening frame and stem treat
Luke hospadaruk -- 5/7/2012, 10:29 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Stiffening frame and stem treat
David Bynoe -- 5/8/2012, 12:39 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Stiffening frame and stem treat
Charlie -- 5/9/2012, 10:44 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Stiffening frame and stem treat
Jeff Horton -- 5/8/2012, 7:33 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Stiffening frame and stem treat
Luke Hospadaruk -- 5/8/2012, 9:23 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Stiffening frame and stem treat
Dave Gentry -- 5/8/2012, 11:36 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Stiffening frame and stem treat
Bill Hamm -- 5/8/2012, 1:42 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Stiffening frame and stem treat
Luke Hospadaruk -- 5/8/2012, 1:53 pm