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Re: Skin-on-Frame: Zip-tie lashings?
By:Mike Savage
Date: 8/16/2013, 6:37 am
In Response To: Skin-on-Frame: Zip-tie lashings? (Jeff Horton)

No, I haven't lost my mind but I am to toying with an idea. We are tossing around the idea of Grandparents-Grandchild boat building class where the two build a kids kayak. The adult class runs a week and it take 3-4 days for them just to get the boat lashed together.

A kids boat will have less joints but we are concerned about everyone staying focused for that long on lashing. It also limits the age of the students somewhat.

We were talking about how to make a quick to assemble boat and shortening the class time up. The idea came up of using zip ties and stapling the skin vs sewing. It would make for a quicker class and give the kids a usable boat to learn in. Plus a wide age of students could actually do a lot of the work.

Just curious if anyone has actually tried zip-ties and if so how well they worked in place of lashings?

Hi Jeff,
Zip ties should work, strength-wise, but the ratchet block would have to be placed so that it doesn't contact the skin, hull or paddler. They last a long time outdoors, I use them as cable run ties on my trike and my motorbike (although those ones are under fairings.
Getting them tight can be a pain though, I use a pliers to get high enough tension.
Sharp corners will weaken them though, round any corners. But they can actually crush timber at edges/corners.

Mike Savage
South West Cork

Messages In This Thread

Skin-on-Frame: Zip-tie lashings?
Jeff Horton -- 8/15/2013, 2:32 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Zip-tie lashings?
ancient kayaker -- 8/15/2013, 6:42 pm
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Paul Montgomery -- 8/15/2013, 7:04 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 8/15/2013, 8:19 pm
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Jeff Horton -- 8/15/2013, 8:39 pm
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Jeff Horton -- 8/15/2013, 8:36 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 8/15/2013, 9:05 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 8/15/2013, 9:47 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Zip-tie lashings? *PIC*
Martin Bunny -- 8/16/2013, 12:52 am
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Jeff Horton -- 8/16/2013, 9:25 am
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Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 8/16/2013, 10:22 am
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Marc Upchurch -- 8/16/2013, 1:31 pm
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Jeff Horton -- 8/16/2013, 1:58 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/16/2013, 9:11 pm
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woodman -- 8/15/2013, 7:54 pm
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David -- 8/15/2013, 8:07 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 8/15/2013, 8:20 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Zip-tie lashings? *PIC*
woodman -- 8/18/2013, 1:42 am
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Zip-tie lashings?
Jeff Horton -- 8/24/2013, 5:21 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Zip-tie lashings?
Mike Savage -- 8/16/2013, 6:37 am
Why lash at all? *PIC*
Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 8/16/2013, 9:52 am
Re: Why lash at all?
Jeff Horton -- 8/16/2013, 12:08 pm
Re: Why lash at all?
Marc Upchurch -- 8/16/2013, 1:56 pm
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Jeff Horton -- 8/16/2013, 2:12 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 8/16/2013, 4:36 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/16/2013, 9:18 pm
Re: Why lash at all?
Marc Upchurch -- 8/17/2013, 1:45 am
Re: Why lash at all?
Jeff Horton -- 8/19/2013, 1:06 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Zip-tie lashings?
Etienne Muller -- 8/16/2013, 5:21 pm
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john vanburen -- 8/17/2013, 10:16 am
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Paul Montgomery -- 8/17/2013, 11:11 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Zip-tie lashings? *PIC*
David -- 8/20/2013, 6:34 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 8/20/2013, 6:57 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/21/2013, 1:52 am
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Don -- 8/18/2013, 11:26 pm
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ancient kayaker -- 8/19/2013, 1:22 pm
Re: Skin-on-Frame: Zip-tie lashings?
john vanburen -- 8/19/2013, 9:31 am
THANKS FOR THE IDEAS!
Jeff Horton -- 8/19/2013, 1:07 pm
Rawhide!
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 8/19/2013, 2:52 pm