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Re: Other: Automobile finish
By:aedie
Date: 10/23/2013, 12:09 am
In Response To: Other: Automobile finish (Matthew)

Hi,

If you decide to apply two part polyurethane yourself, do not even think about spraying it unless you have a supplied air respirator. This stuff is seriously toxic.

Even rolling or brushing it on produces fumes that ordinary organic vapor cartridges are pretty much defeated by. I found that even new cartridges were no match for the fumes, so I ended up rigging up a external air source to my respirator using some plastic water pipe intended for sump pumps. It was a pain in the butt, and provided only just tolerable reduction in fumes.

The other issue I ran into was fisheyes, which seem a greater problem with two part polyurethanes than with anything else I have used. I never did cure the problem, or figure out what kind of contamination was causing it. If you use this finish, either by yourself or by a shop, give the whole kayak a very thorough scrub with water before washing with recommended solvent. When I tried to chase this issue down, the techs at Interlux told me to use soap and water, but I never did that because I did not trust soap to be free from contaminants that would remain after the water wash.

If I do another kayak with this stuff, I will have a supplied air respirator, and I will try the finish on a hatch cover or another smaller test surface which has had exactly the same prep as the kayak to see if a problem with surface contamination is there. Finding the fisheyes after the whole kayak is coated is disappointing. Finding them in every one of three coats in spite of considerable effort is even more disappointing. Ordinary varnish was starting to look good. :)

Have fun,

Allan Edie

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Other: Automobile finish
Matthew -- 10/7/2013, 5:41 pm
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Matt Jakubek -- 10/8/2013, 9:51 am
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Mike Bielski -- 10/10/2013, 12:10 pm
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John Faas -- 10/10/2013, 5:14 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 10/10/2013, 6:35 pm
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Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 10/11/2013, 9:56 am
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Mike Bielski -- 10/10/2013, 8:22 pm
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Malcolm Schweizer -- 10/10/2013, 5:39 pm
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aedie -- 10/23/2013, 12:09 am
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bryan kapteyn -- 10/23/2013, 12:32 pm
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Greg_H -- 10/23/2013, 4:01 pm
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bryan kapteyn -- 10/23/2013, 5:06 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 10/24/2013, 12:40 am
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Marc Upchurch -- 10/24/2013, 6:40 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 10/24/2013, 10:58 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 10/25/2013, 7:57 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 10/25/2013, 12:43 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 10/25/2013, 1:10 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 10/26/2013, 7:39 am
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Bill Hamm -- 10/26/2013, 7:24 am
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 10/25/2013, 4:51 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 10/25/2013, 5:49 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 10/25/2013, 6:29 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 10/25/2013, 8:32 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 10/25/2013, 10:14 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 10/26/2013, 9:33 am
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Bill Hamm -- 10/26/2013, 7:45 am
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 10/26/2013, 10:40 am
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Bill Hamm -- 10/27/2013, 1:09 am
Automobile finish id for automobiles
Jay Babina -- 11/8/2013, 7:41 am
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Bill Hamm -- 11/8/2013, 9:25 am
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Mike Bielski -- 11/8/2013, 10:16 am
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Bill Hamm -- 11/10/2013, 1:24 am
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Noel Bennett -- 11/10/2013, 7:04 am
Automobile finish
Jay Babina -- 11/10/2013, 7:28 am
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Mike Bielski -- 11/10/2013, 2:09 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 11/10/2013, 3:43 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 11/10/2013, 4:55 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 11/10/2013, 5:17 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 11/10/2013, 7:53 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/11/2013, 2:44 am
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Marc Upchurch -- 11/11/2013, 6:01 am
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Bill Hamm -- 11/12/2013, 12:19 am
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Allan -- 11/10/2013, 4:31 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 11/10/2013, 5:16 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/11/2013, 2:51 am
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Mike Bielski -- 11/11/2013, 12:34 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/12/2013, 12:25 am
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Mike Bielski -- 11/12/2013, 12:49 am
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aedie -- 10/24/2013, 2:01 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 10/24/2013, 5:12 pm
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aedie -- 10/25/2013, 12:53 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 10/25/2013, 1:11 pm
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Robert Horstmann -- 11/7/2013, 10:05 am
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Marc Upchurch -- 11/7/2013, 5:29 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 10/26/2013, 7:49 am
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aedie -- 10/26/2013, 12:54 pm
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Robert Horstmann -- 11/7/2013, 10:16 am
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Marc Upchurch -- 11/7/2013, 1:06 pm
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Roy Martin -- 11/9/2013, 10:08 am
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Roy Martin -- 11/9/2013, 10:14 am
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Roy Martin -- 11/9/2013, 10:16 am
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Roy Martin -- 11/9/2013, 10:19 am
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Bill Hamm -- 11/10/2013, 1:32 am
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Robert Horstmann -- 11/7/2013, 11:11 pm
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Malcolm Schweizer -- 11/8/2013, 1:59 pm
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Robert Horstmann -- 11/9/2013, 8:36 am
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Malcolm Schweizer -- 11/9/2013, 9:19 am
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Robert Horstmann -- 11/9/2013, 10:29 am
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Malcolm Schweizer -- 11/9/2013, 10:48 am
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Marc Upchurch -- 11/9/2013, 12:24 pm
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aedie -- 11/11/2013, 9:09 pm